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To: little jeremiah
"And I never said that “inanimate objects” are responsible for peoples’ actions."

"...whereas it is a fact that watching ultra violent graphic games etc does affect minds and emotions of those who indulge."

Which is it? Are inanimate objects like video games responsible for people's actions, or aren't they? Or are we splitting hairs over the meaning of "responsible for"? Maybe I just don't understand your argument, but it sure sounds to me like you're saying the outside stimuli of video games (which are inanimate objects) inspire people to violence. But you also said you didn't say that.

"For you to accuse me of using the same arguments Clinton used is nasty and totally untrue. Why? Because the fact is right wing radio was and is not hate inspiring, whereas it is a fact that watching ultra violent graphic games (inanimate objects) etc does affect minds and emotions of those who indulge."

First of all, I'm not "accusing" you of anything. I'm pointing out your flawed and dangerous argument, and how that same tactic has been used by our Leftist enemies...like Bill Klinton after the OKC bombing.

Now...you know it's a fact that talk radio doesn't spread hate and call for violence against people (I agree with you). But Leftists "know" it's a "fact" that it does. Similarly, many people -- many Leftists among them -- "know" it's a "fact" that video games are harmless past times that don't inspire anyone to do anything wrong. But to you, it's a "fact" that they're vacuous wastes of time at best (which I don't necessarily disagree with), and inspire people like Alexis and Lanza to commit heinous acts at worst (which I completely disagree with).

The "fact" is you're both wrong...Leftists about talk radio and you about video games. No gun, no video game, no talk radio show, no set of song lyrics, no movie and no TV show ever caused someone to pull a trigger. For whatever reason -- sickness, immaturity, depression, hatred, whatever -- every shooting was caused by an individual or individuals pulling the trigger. The gun didn't cause it, the Rush Limbaugh Show didn't cause it, and Grand Theft Auto didn't cause it.

Now...how is that a straw man argument?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

55 posted on 09/20/2013 9:44:17 PM PDT by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: wku man

Video games are very animated.

For someone who is not right in the head some games can probably set him off, for others not right in the head it keeps them from going off.

Let us just agree to keep the impressionable youngsters off the games until they get a moral foundation.


56 posted on 09/20/2013 9:48:21 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: wku man

You type many words.

They mean little.

Have fun fighting with yourself because my time is too precious to waste trying to discuss with someone who doesn’t see the difference between “direct cause” and “tendency to have an influence”. If you can’t understand simple concepts, I can’t help you understand.

Useless waste of my time.


57 posted on 09/21/2013 7:37:48 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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