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To: SkyPilot

Well, what’s your proposal? Break out your white board and give us all the summary poll of the east coast elite....


178 posted on 09/20/2013 12:45:39 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: CSM
Well, what’s your proposal?

We lost the ObamaCare votes in Congress in 2010. It passed, even though Harry Reid violated Senate rules and passed it by shenanigans because he didn't have 60 votes. In fact, the Senate version of the bill should have begun in the House, but it didn't. Another violation, but Washington DC plays dirty.

We lost the hope of repealing ObamaCare when Romney lost the Presidency and the Republicans lost Senate seats.

We lost the chance of the SCOTUS to overturn it when Judas Roberts mysteriously changed his vote.

The vast majority of ObamaCare is mandatory spending, and they only portion they are taking about "de-funding" is the sliver of discretionary that accompanies it.

So this is all a game of Boob Bait for the Bubbas.

Everyone listening to every word from Hannity on the radio and every syllable from Ted Cruz on this has been played for a fool.

Without the Senate and the White House, there is NO WAY that ObamaCare is being de-funded or repealed.

None.

These next 2 weeks are about the budget. There are 2 of them, a House budget and a Senate budget (the first time since 2009 they passed one). The bills are about $90 Billion apart. They could have gone to Conference months ago to resolve the bills, but the GOP refused.

And since only 2 of the 12 Appropriations bills have even come up for a vote, we are in even worse shape.

The only hope either side has is for a Continuing Resolution, and with this ObamaCare sideshow, that is looking less likely.

If there is a shutdown, I say - no Entitlement checks should be sent out. Zero. No Social Security, nothing. Let America feel the pain for the games that both sides are playing.

Out military has already paid a terrible price in all of these games between Obama and Congress. It has been raided like and ATM machine through massive cuts before and after Sequestration, but Entitlements, the REAL cause of our debt and deficits, were left exempt. This is criminal.

If we get to the debt ceiling and they are still playing games, then the US Dollar is in big, big trouble. We will always pay interest on the debt, but the world will see that we are not serious about our fiscal matters, and the Dollar will accelerate its exit as the world's Reserve Currency. This is already occurring. When that happens, out interest on our current debt will skyrocket, and we will collapse.

The only hope is for a "Grand Bargain" that reforms both taxes and entitlements, along the lines of the Simpson-Bowles proposal.

190 posted on 09/20/2013 5:13:47 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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