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To: little jeremiah

>> Get a new word. If people keep using the word “libertarian”, it means they agree with the LP. If they didn’t, they’d use another word.

There is no reason to get a new word nor is there an obligation to accept your premise describing agreement. What’s lacking is the intellectual ability to differentiate definitions that concern enforcement from definitions that concern social values. I understand definitions can be an inconvenience when emotional commitments are at stake, but the definitions stand for reason.

Any ruckus or wrath that I express is usually directed to those outside the forum with the exception of those that recklessly project depraved traits upon their fellow FReepers.

FRegards, lj.

statism
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Political system in which central government has a major role

libertarianism
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Political philosophy that emphasizes the importance of personal liberty and political freedom, with strict limits on state activity

conservatism
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A political or theological orientation advocating the preservation of the best in society and opposing radical changes

liberalism
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A political orientation that favors social progress by reform and by changing laws rather than by revolution

Don’t be a statist!


367 posted on 09/20/2013 7:28:37 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

Reading sloganeering is very boring. When and if libertarians eschew the platform of the Libertarian Party, then we can have an honest discussion. Or, alternately, if they honestly say they agree with the LP platform.

Until that time, slogans are boring. Very, very boring.

I am not:

a statist
a liberal
a conservative
a leftist
a libertarian

I am a constitutionalist. And I agree with the founders many of whom made very clear statements about the necesity of morality being the foundation of society and that our form of government will not work if the people in general are immoral.

Another point is that libertarians who say the fedgov should not be making legislation about morality, I agree 100%. The states should have the freedom to make such laws.

But libertarians don’t want the states to make such laws, either. So they are basically a mixture of anarchists, ultra leftists and kooks.


368 posted on 09/20/2013 7:34:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Gene Eric

What is the libertarian position on the military accepting homosexuals, or recognizing soldiers who were legally gay married in some states as long as they recognize heterosexual marriage, as they have since even before the constitution was ratified?


370 posted on 09/20/2013 7:49:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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