Posted on 09/18/2013 6:00:35 AM PDT by tobyhill
Faced with a politically risky push by some Republicans to defund ObamaCare, other party members are turning to an alternative strategy: delay it instead.
Republicans are divided on how to confront the Affordable Care Act. Some, such as Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah, are pushing to permanently defund it.
But attaching such a measure to a resolution that funds the government after Oct. 1 runs the risk of a government shutdown if it doesnt pass. If that happens, Republicans fear they would be blamed.
Former White House chief of staff Karl Rove told Fox News people who overwhelmingly oppose ObamaCare also oppose shutting down the government by a 2-to-1 margin.
"They clearly do not like ObamaCare," Rove said. "They think its a failed piece of legislation that is going to hurt the country and hurt their families, but they dont agree with the strategy of tying it to a defund measure that might lead to a temporary shutdown of the government."
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Deafening. After 5 minutes?
I will do some of your homework for you this time, but never again. Next time, don't be so lazy.
Military civilian medical workers quit after furloughs
Sequestration Cuts Endanger the Air Force
Air Force squadrons to stand down because of sequestration
Sequestration worsening the condition of Navy ships
Military considers cutting 25% of Army personnel, Marines to trim budget for sequester
WTH is wrong with these spineless morons? DEFUND IT! End of story.
Karl Rove can shut the hell up. I see Hannity is still featuring the Gerber Baby as an honored guest and calling him “The Architect.”
ok well one of the articles talks about standing down after returning from military overseas deployments.............and they should stand down, same as after any war, you gin them up, deploy them, bring them home, you wind them down, my former reserve unit got deployed to Desert Storm on active duty, (I was out by this time) came back home and went back to reserve duty, is this “hollowed out”? no
government is supposed to be on a thin budget, that’s how it always was, now government is sucking all the good stuff and the rest of us are on thin budgets, so, no, I think the sequestration was a huge plus
delaying it will just help the Democrats
I think the GOPe leaders know this.
I think we all know the GOPe leaders don’t want it undone.
Seems to me that anyone who stands in the way of Obamacare,,who helps delay or kill it,,will be considered a HERO in the eyes of many! The MSM will make them out to be villains,,but that’s a given anyway.....
Permanently Defund it!
As I suspected, you “want what you want”, and will twist anything to morph into your perceived view. You take all those articles I posted for you, and that’s what you come up with? Google is at your fingertips to discover any facts or expert analysis of what Sequestration (and the previous deep cuts of $330 Billion in 2009 and $487 Billion in 2011) have done to hollow out and gut our military.
It was rude of me not to thank you for posting the links to all that info, thank you
Defund, delay, repeal. Do them all.
We put in a provision to dealy all aspects of the bill for a year, defund accordingly (as no funds would be needed for implementation this year if everything is delayed), and then run hard to take the Senate in 2014, at which point, you present a repeal and a defunding in a must-pass, must-sign bill and see what Caliph Hussein does.
Why not have the true Republicans request a BINDING, updated, Federal Financial Impact Statement for 2012-2013 for Obamacare?
It should take a month or two to complete, allow for a vote to delay Obamacare for a year, and then show the great financial harm to our Economy that the Statements numbers will document.
Wharton, Stanford, Michigan and Princeton could also file their independent Financial Impact Statements to compare to the Office of Budget and the Congressional Budget Office Financial Impact Statements.
As B. Hussein is fond of saying: We need to get all the facts first.
Well now you make me feel guilty......thanks for the thanks.
I am former military myself................
The 2.3% Medical Excise Tax that began on January 1st is supposed to be “hidden” from the consumer, but it’s been brought to the public’s attention by hunting and fishing store Cabela’s who have refused to hide it and are showing it as a separate line item tax on their receipts, the email states.
I did some research and found directly from the IRS’s website information that PROVES this to be true and an accurate portrayal of something hidden in Obamacare that I was not aware of! Now being skeptical of this I went to the IRS website and found this!
Q1. What is the medical device excise tax?
A1. Section 4191 of the Internal Revenue Code imposes an excise tax on the sale of certain medical devices by the manufacturer or importer of the device.
Q2. When does the tax go into effect?
A2. The tax applies to sales of taxable medical devices after Dec. 31, 2012.
Q3. How much is the tax?
A3. The tax is 2.3 percent of the sale price of the taxable medical device. See Chapter 5 of IRS Publication 510, Excise Taxes, and Notice 2012-77 for additional information on the determination of sale price.
IRS.gov Chapter Fivehttp://www.irs.gov/publications/p510/ch05.html
So being more curious I clicked on “Chapter 5
Of IRS Publication 510.”
And what do I find under “MEDICAL DEVICES” under “MANUFACTURERS TAXES”?
The following discussion of manufacturers taxes
Applies to the tax on:
Sport fishing equipment;
Fishing rods and fishing poles;
Electric outboard motors;
Fishing tackle boxes;
Bows, quivers, broadheads, and points;
Arrow shafts;
Coal;
Taxable tires;
Gas guzzler automobiles; and
Vaccines.
I NEVER KNEW THAT A TIRE IS A MEDICAL DEVICE.
IRS.gov I think we have definitely been fooled, if we believe that the Affordable Care Act is all about health care. It Truly does appear to be nothing more than a bill Laden with a whole lot of taxes that we the people have yet to be aware of.
I am still incredulous that this can go on. I guess its just like Nancy Pelosi said .
We have to pass it to see what is in it .What is next? What else is there we do not know about? I am sick to death about our government all of them!!!!!!
God help us.
That is not accurate: http://www.fda.gov/RegulatoryInformation/Legislation/FederalFoodDrugandCosmeticActFDCAct/FDCActChaptersIandIIShortTitleandDefinitions/default.htm
paragraph (n) of this section and in sections
331(i), 343(f), 352(c), and 362(c) of this title) means
an instrument, apparatus, implement, machine,
contrivance, implant, in vitro reagent, or other
similar or related article, including any component,
part, or accessory, which is
(1) recognized in the official National Formulary,
or the United States Pharmacopeia,
or any supplement to them,
(2) intended for use in the diagnosis of disease
or other conditions, or in the cure, mitigation,
treatment, or prevention of disease, in
man or other animals, or
(3) intended to affect the structure or any
function of the body of man or other animals,
and
which does not achieve its primary intended
purposes through chemical action within or on
the body of man or other animals and which is
not dependent upon being metabolized for the
achievement of its primary intended purposes.
Whatever that means.
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