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New GOP strategy looks at delaying ObamaCare (End it once and for all!)
fox news ^ | 9/18/2013 | By Jim Angle

Posted on 09/18/2013 6:00:35 AM PDT by tobyhill

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To: yldstrk
where can I find these facts the silence is deafening

Deafening. After 5 minutes?

I will do some of your homework for you this time, but never again. Next time, don't be so lazy.

Military civilian medical workers quit after furloughs

Sequestration Cuts Endanger the Air Force

Air Force squadrons to stand down because of sequestration

Sequestration worsening the condition of Navy ships

Military considers cutting 25% of Army personnel, Marines to trim budget for sequester

21 posted on 09/18/2013 7:02:44 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
The military was dealing with massive cuts before the Sequester, and that was the final knife across the throat.

When we have a C-in-C that uses it when he souldn't, and doesn't when he should, I don't see it making much difference in the short run.
22 posted on 09/18/2013 7:04:35 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: tobyhill

WTH is wrong with these spineless morons? DEFUND IT! End of story.

Karl Rove can shut the hell up. I see Hannity is still featuring the Gerber Baby as an honored guest and calling him “The Architect.”


23 posted on 09/18/2013 7:11:33 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.)
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To: SkyPilot

ok well one of the articles talks about standing down after returning from military overseas deployments.............and they should stand down, same as after any war, you gin them up, deploy them, bring them home, you wind them down, my former reserve unit got deployed to Desert Storm on active duty, (I was out by this time) came back home and went back to reserve duty, is this “hollowed out”? no

government is supposed to be on a thin budget, that’s how it always was, now government is sucking all the good stuff and the rest of us are on thin budgets, so, no, I think the sequestration was a huge plus


24 posted on 09/18/2013 7:26:20 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

delaying it will just help the Democrats

I think the GOPe leaders know this.

I think we all know the GOPe leaders don’t want it undone.


25 posted on 09/18/2013 7:29:50 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: tobyhill

Seems to me that anyone who stands in the way of Obamacare,,who helps delay or kill it,,will be considered a HERO in the eyes of many! The MSM will make them out to be villains,,but that’s a given anyway.....

Permanently Defund it!


26 posted on 09/18/2013 7:43:06 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: yldstrk

As I suspected, you “want what you want”, and will twist anything to morph into your perceived view. You take all those articles I posted for you, and that’s what you come up with? Google is at your fingertips to discover any facts or expert analysis of what Sequestration (and the previous deep cuts of $330 Billion in 2009 and $487 Billion in 2011) have done to hollow out and gut our military.


27 posted on 09/18/2013 7:43:17 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

It was rude of me not to thank you for posting the links to all that info, thank you


28 posted on 09/18/2013 7:50:48 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: tobyhill

Defund, delay, repeal. Do them all.

We put in a provision to dealy all aspects of the bill for a year, defund accordingly (as no funds would be needed for implementation this year if everything is delayed), and then run hard to take the Senate in 2014, at which point, you present a repeal and a defunding in a must-pass, must-sign bill and see what Caliph Hussein does.


29 posted on 09/18/2013 7:51:14 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: tobyhill

Why not have the true Republicans request a BINDING, updated, “Federal Financial Impact Statement” for 2012-2013 for Obama”care?”

It should take a month or two to complete, allow for a vote to delay Obama”care” for a year, and then show the great financial harm to our Economy that the Statement’s numbers will document.

Wharton, Stanford, Michigan and Princeton could also file their independent Financial Impact Statements to compare to the Office of Budget and the Congressional Budget Office Financial Impact Statements.

As B. Hussein is fond of saying: “We need to get all the facts first.”


30 posted on 09/18/2013 10:55:04 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: yldstrk

Well now you make me feel guilty......thanks for the thanks.


31 posted on 09/18/2013 11:22:48 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

I am former military myself................


32 posted on 09/18/2013 3:18:45 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: tobyhill

The 2.3% Medical Excise Tax that began on January 1st is supposed to be “hidden” from the consumer, but it’s been brought to the public’s attention by hunting and fishing store Cabela’s who have refused to hide it and are showing it as a separate line item tax on their receipts, the email states.

I did some research and found directly from the IRS’s website information that PROVES this to be true and an accurate portrayal of something hidden in Obamacare that I was not aware of! Now being skeptical of this I went to the IRS website and found this!

Q1. What is the medical device excise tax?

A1. Section 4191 of the Internal Revenue Code imposes an excise tax on the sale of certain medical devices by the manufacturer or importer of the device.

Q2. When does the tax go into effect?

A2. The tax applies to sales of taxable medical devices after Dec. 31, 2012.

Q3. How much is the tax?

A3. The tax is 2.3 percent of the sale price of the taxable medical device. See Chapter 5 of IRS Publication 510, Excise Taxes, and Notice 2012-77 for additional information on the determination of sale price.

IRS.gov Chapter Fivehttp://www.irs.gov/publications/p510/ch05.html

So being more curious I clicked on “Chapter 5
Of IRS Publication 510.”

And what do I find under “MEDICAL DEVICES” under “MANUFACTURERS TAXES”?

The following discussion of manufacturers taxes

Applies to the tax on:

Sport fishing equipment;

Fishing rods and fishing poles;

Electric outboard motors;

Fishing tackle boxes;

Bows, quivers, broadheads, and points;

Arrow shafts;

Coal;

Taxable tires;

Gas guzzler automobiles; and

Vaccines.

I NEVER KNEW THAT A TIRE IS A MEDICAL DEVICE.

IRS.gov I think we have definitely been fooled, if we believe that the Affordable Care Act is all about health care. It Truly does appear to be nothing more than a bill Laden with a whole lot of taxes that we the people have yet to be aware of.

I am still incredulous that this can go on. I guess it’s just like Nancy Pelosi said…….

We have to pass it to see what is in it .What is next? What else is there we do not know about? I am sick to death about our government……all of them!!!!!!

God help us.


33 posted on 09/18/2013 5:57:39 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone

That is not accurate: http://www.fda.gov/RegulatoryInformation/Legislation/FederalFoodDrugandCosmeticActFDCAct/FDCActChaptersIandIIShortTitleandDefinitions/default.htm

paragraph (n) of this section and in sections
331(i), 343(f), 352(c), and 362(c) of this title) means
an instrument, apparatus, implement, machine,
contrivance, implant, in vitro reagent, or other
similar or related article, including any component,
part, or accessory, which is—
(1) recognized in the official National Formulary,
or the United States Pharmacopeia,
or any supplement to them,
(2) intended for use in the diagnosis of disease
or other conditions, or in the cure, mitigation,
treatment, or prevention of disease, in
man or other animals, or
(3) intended to affect the structure or any
function of the body of man or other animals,
and
which does not achieve its primary intended
purposes through chemical action within or on
the body of man or other animals and which is
not dependent upon being metabolized for the
achievement of its primary intended purposes.

Whatever that means.


34 posted on 09/18/2013 6:01:15 PM PDT by rlbedfor
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