[servo1969]

Oh, I'm certain he will agonize terribly over whether to sign it. Right.

So long, California. Only the gangbangers and illegals will have ammo now because they don't care if they're carrying lead bullets. They'll be back on the street the next day. Joe-six-pack? Oh, hell no. Your life will be ruined. You'll lose your job, have to get rid of all your firearms, etc.

[Robert357]

Call me naive, but I read AB-711 and I don't see where it bans all lead ammo. I see where it restricts lead ammo and a fine is incurred but only if the ammo is used to take game or non-game species or in areas frequented by the California condor.

“...nonlead ammunition, as determined by the commission, shall be required when taking all wildlife, including game mammals, game birds, nongame birds, and nongame mammals, with any firearm...”

“...(h) This section does not apply to government officials or their agents when carrying out a statutory duty required by law...”

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140AB711

My read is that if (God forbid) I lived in California, I could still use lead ammo for self-defense unless the Dept of Game sets hunting seasons on criminals and defines them as game or non-game species.

I think that this bill is being hyped as doing more than the language actually states.

[Beagle8U]

This would pretty much outlaw the 22 cal rimfire.

[Travis T. OJustice]

“It’s not lead, sir, it’s pewter”.

[RedStateRocker]

I have my shotgun loaded with Drano shells anyway.

[elkfersupper]

My .54 muzzle loader works just fine with whatever you can shove down the barrel.

[Yaelle]

Wind farms kill 600,000 birds a year. How many are killed by lead?

[donmeaker]

Of course the 2nd Amendment should be applied through the 14th Amendment to limit the ability of the states to infringe upon citizens rights through the P and I clause.

Without the 14th Amendment, the 2nd Amendment would be applied against the state of California for US citizens who were not citizens of California via the P or I clause.

[Iron Munro]

Call the revolution off.

The rebels aren’t allowed to use lead ammo.

/s

[Iron Munro]

Rubber Band ammo is still legal but the guns are prohibited.

[Battle Hymn of the Republic]

I thought the way I understood it is that all these bills are already law. Brown can only stop by vetoing by Oct 15. If he does nothing, then they go into affect.  He doesn’t have to sign anything for it to become law.

[PATRIOT1876]

I wonder if there are thieves on the borders of California ready to rush in like they did in Oklahoma in the late 1800’s.

Thousands stream in to rob and kill and stake their claim on a Californian’s property and life.

[3Fingas]

Will the last legal citizen left in California please turn the light out?

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

I believe the FRENCH used a solid bronze bullet in one of their wars about 100 years ago. But then, expansion was not needed.