To: 2ndDivisionVet
2 posted on
09/16/2013 9:55:34 PM PDT by
Domangart
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Plenty of natural resources on land and in the water in the Philippines maybe the US could make the Philippines the 51st state.
Yeah, I know, what about all the poor people who will be living on the government dole.
Make them the 51st state with certain limitations.
It would make a perfect strategic spot to counter China and take advantage of growing economic advantages being in Asia.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Even Vietnam wants us to return to Cam Ranh Bay.
4 posted on
09/16/2013 10:00:41 PM PDT by
dfwgator
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I wouldn’t mind a night or two in “po” city ... if only to remember the old times ... when the streets weren’t paved
5 posted on
09/16/2013 10:01:01 PM PDT by
clamper1797
(Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
We will return to P.I. when Guam capsizes.
7 posted on
09/16/2013 10:04:33 PM PDT by
Delta 21
(Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Too late, Philippines, go suck on it. Now is a good time to learn Chinese!
8 posted on
09/16/2013 10:04:36 PM PDT by
Cowboy Bob
(They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I’m in canada right now for a location shoot, then next week after the RP. Anyone who’s been to Subic knows it’s a big place...bigger than Universal Studios and Paramount combined.
Funny thing: our workers keep quitting as they said it’s haunted big time.
11 posted on
09/16/2013 10:12:24 PM PDT by
max americana
(fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Too little, too late. They could not wait to express their "independence" by politically pressuring us to leave once they thought they were strong enough to play with the 'big bollocks bas'surds, now they are finding out that we were shielding them from a lot more than they are capable of handling. And now, they want us to place a few "people" there, so that we will be forced to "respond" when some entity's aggresive moves gets one of them hurt.
Guess what, pares. Your choices have consequences. You wanted us out of the playing field, now deal with your own opponents. You demanded we leave the field you were playing upon. Now, we are gone and too late for the karma you reap, you ungrateful lot!
15 posted on
09/16/2013 10:32:43 PM PDT by
Utilizer
(Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Should have thought about the long term ramifications of going it alone back then. Fat chance in hell we will go back. Deal with it.
17 posted on
09/16/2013 10:35:12 PM PDT by
HANG THE EXPENSE
(Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Philippine Senate deserves the major role in the U.S. military pullout beginning at the end of 1991. The major U.S. bases were at Subic Bay and Clark AFB. The U.S. was paying the Philippines hundreds of millions of dollars for leases on these major bases and secondary sites as: NAS Cubi Point, Naval Support Depot, and Naval Ship Repair Facility.
Negotiations over the lease amount paid by the U.S. to the Philippine government ran into an impasse in the Philippine Senate. A majority of the Senators wanted to substantially increase the lease amount. While the negotiators were bickering, My. Pinatubo erupted and buried one of the major bases, Clark AFB, under tons and tons of volcanic ash. The base was a total loss.
The loss of Clark AFB was the final nail in the negotiations coffin for the Americans. They told the Philippines they were withdrawing from the bases and redeploying assets over the years 1992-1994. As they left, the Americans packed up their equipment and supporting logistics. The Filipinos got the empty shells of these bases. Eventually the Americans were gone, 80,000 Filipinos that worked on the U.S. bases lost their well paying jobs, and the Philippines lost their lease income.
Now the Chinese dragon is stirring up things, the Philippines want the military muscle of the Americans back in their country. They want Americans to block Chinese ambitions. I don't see this happening. The Philippines bit the hand that fed and helped protect them in 1991; we're gone and not coming back.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
When obama hears this, he will offer asylum to the whole population if they give the islands to China.
28 posted on
09/17/2013 2:30:16 AM PDT by
Right Wing Assault
(Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
A local businessman returning Cebu last week said its a done deal.
30 posted on
09/17/2013 3:02:35 AM PDT by
damncat
To: 2ndDivisionVet
*KMAC YOYO
*Kiss My A$$ Charlie Your On Your Own.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
For a start, the Philippines itself would have to reverse a constitutional ban on allowing a foreign power to establish a permanent military base. But assuming that was possible, America still wouldn't be interested. Bases are potential sitting ducks for Chinese missiles. Plus, they are expensive. At a time of budget cuts, it's far cheaper to sign a treaty with friendly countries guaranteeing access for U.S. forces than to pay rent. In military-speak, America wants "places not bases." The idea that we'd pay rent to become unpaid security guard for Pinoys is pretty amusing. Even the Koreans are starting to figure out that the alternative to footing (part of) the bill is becoming a Chinese province. I suspect the Pinoys would get a deal if they gave us - in perpetuity - a base there rent-free. But they are likely too greedy and too convinced we need that base more than they do, for convoluted and stupid reasons. And this is a moronic elites to grassroots perception. So the base will simply not materialize.
35 posted on
09/17/2013 4:14:34 AM PDT by
Zhang Fei
(Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
To: AlexW; Berosus; buwaya; dagogo redux; DFG; Doofer; knarf; LadyDoc; Mark17; max americana; ...
PIng
36 posted on
09/17/2013 4:26:31 AM PDT by
ASA Vet
(Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it.
38 posted on
09/17/2013 4:51:16 AM PDT by
2001convSVT
(Going Galt as fast as I can.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
And this all after General McArthur’s return. Ungrateful anti-colonial Marxists!
43 posted on
09/17/2013 9:45:03 AM PDT by
JSDude1
(Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
You wanted the evil, belligerent, barbaric Americans out.
So we’re out.
45 posted on
09/17/2013 10:25:51 AM PDT by
Tzimisce
(The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I thought all our base are belong to them?
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