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To: servo1969

I can remember when the kind of mental instability involved with the two gun incidents on his record would have disallowed him for a secret clearance.

The problem now seems to be that our intelligence agencies are no longer working for our country. In fact, they seem to be working against it.


5 posted on 09/16/2013 6:57:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

I was in the shooting at ESL (a defense company in Sunnyvale, Ca) back in 1989. The shooter, Richard Farley, had a top secret clearance. I know he had been fired from the company for stalking one of the employees, but I don’t know if his clearance was taken away or not.

Clearances don’t give you that much information on people.

It’s just really bad if you’ve gone bankrupt!!


16 posted on 09/16/2013 7:09:16 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Cicero

he’s black so no one can say no


143 posted on 09/16/2013 9:28:31 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Cicero

I knew a guy who joined the Navy in 1982. He was promised a rate that required a secret clearance. They had to send him home from boot camp because he failed the clearance check. He had a speeding ticket on his record.


145 posted on 09/16/2013 9:44:08 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Cicero

I worked for an employer where many of the old-timers still working there remember when being a homosexual would have gotten you fired. It would have been seen as a security risk because homosexuals were considered to be mentally unstable. Now they have homo week every year and people who utter the words ‘fag’ or ‘queer’ get fired because that’s discrimination. The old guys just shake their heads whenever they talk about it. The guys who remember the cold war are retiring or dieing off at an alarming rate. The knowledge and experience of the workforce is slowly draining away. Their replacements can’t even hold a candle to ‘em.

Hell, I know a younger guy with felony drug charges in his past who was given a clearance! I couldn’t believe it when they did that. So what if he’s clean now? He was convicted of dealing drugs at work! They didn’t have to give him a clearance. He could have just worked in uncleared areas. It wouldn’t have effected his paycheck one cent. But, no, there he goes into secure areas to work.

Dammit, we sure are diverse now and that’s what really matters, right? </s


146 posted on 09/16/2013 9:44:12 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: Cicero

That fact that no one was fired or imprisoned after Nidal Hassan proves your theory.


167 posted on 09/17/2013 4:51:37 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Cicero

Secret clearance is not all that difficult nor important. The government really does it to protect itself. That way anything classified at all has the person under a prosecutable signature not to reveal.

The real stuff is top secret and the special clearances.

And, if things are still same, an entrance national agency check is sufficient to get a temporary secret clearance.

That means this guy had to have his name run through the computer systems of those agencies, and those agencies did not raise the alarm. Somehow, whatever he’d done in the past had not been flagged in their computers.


168 posted on 09/17/2013 4:54:29 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Cicero

I’d rather have Putin’s FSB in charge of our national security, that’s how bad it’s gotten. Could Russia do any more damage than this administration has?


182 posted on 09/17/2013 7:36:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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“...would have disallowed him for a secret clearance....”

Ah! but! perfect for our purpose..........”

/sarc


194 posted on 09/17/2013 10:18:01 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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