[X-spurt]

Did you read the thing you posted? It includes the whole kitchen sink, not JUST SS.

Yes things like Medicaid, SSI, nobamacare and welfare are entitlement give-aways. Damn few drawing either of those paid a dime for that “entitlement”

SS and Medicare, we pre-paid for it more than 100% and pay again for Medicare insurance every month.

Need to quit inferring SS and Medicare is some kind of free-loader deal.

[SkyPilot]

I did differerntiate between earned and unearned Entitlements, in post #9.

"The Sequester did nothing to address this explosion of Entitlement growth, in fact, it completely ignored the problem. The source of our spending nightmare is not discretionary spending, it is Entitlements (both earned and unearned). The 3 worst actors are Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, two out of three are earned Entitlements, but they are all a train wreck, and ObamaCare is about to add to the carnage."

And unfortunately for you, me, and the entire nation, the biggest contributors to our debt and depict ARE Entitlements, and Social Security and Medicare are massive problems to deal with.

We didn't "pre-pay" into anything. Those programs are only sustained even today by massive borrowing and taxes on (the few) remaining current workers. There is not vault of money, yours or mine.

I am not saying we should eliminate SS or Medicare, but there have to be reforms or the United States is going to implode.

The giveaway programs are an obscenity. I just read here on FR that illegals in one California county collect billions.

[Jim Noble]

SS and Medicare, we pre-paid for it more than 100%

You're kidding, right?

Your total paid Medicare taxes would pay for about 3 days in an ICU, or one heart operation.

Most Medicare recipients consume 3, 4, 5, or 10 times what they've paid in.