Posted on 09/16/2013 3:19:23 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
Last Tuesday morning, at 9 a.m. in a room deep within the bowels of the Capitol, Representative John Campbell was trying to determine whether the GOP leadership’s plan to fund the government would sink or swim.
“Some meetings like that, they present an idea, and it just gets blasted,” he says. “And you can just tell, walking out of the meeting, ‘Okay, this is not gonna fly.’”
Campbell, an affable and wealthy Californian who is leaving Congress at the end of this session and is eager to get ownership of his calendar back, has always had a knack for anticipating whether a deal can be struck. When it comes to the deliberations among House Republicans, he says, the key is to watch who is complaining.
“There are some people who tend to oppose anything leadership comes out with,” he says. “If they’re critical, that really doesn’t tell you anything. But if the others who aren’t the automatic ‘no’ people start to criticize, that gives you a message.”
On Tuesday, there were already worrisome signs.
The night before, Majority Leader Eric Cantor had brought a handful of influential House conservatives into the speaker’s ceremonial office right off the House floor to brief them on the plan. It wasn’t what the conservatives, who thought it would be a discussion about what to do, had in mind. Having sat through angry town halls, they were eager to deliver a message, but instead they listened to a plan they felt they had no say in.
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Of course it's a gift, it's welfare of the worst kind, since young welfare recipients could at least, in theory, become taxpayers while SS recipients cannot and will not.
You're kidding, right?
Your total paid Medicare taxes would pay for about 3 days in an ICU, or one heart operation.
Most Medicare recipients consume 3, 4, 5, or 10 times what they've paid in.
So, you think that Medicare is free once they force you to sign up and you only pay for it through payroll taxes?
I could have kept my private health insurance at about the same “PREMIUM” rate as I have to pay every month for Medicare.
Your ICU / heart operation comparison will cost the same many time greater than YOU pay in private insurance, that why we buy insurance, so that’s an idiotic argument.
Surely everyone in New Hampshire is not quite such an ignorant idiot as what you just posted.
Hopefully you are not that stupid to believe such crap.
Anyone that disagrees with your is full of "hate" or "fear" or acting childish.
You are obviously looking forward to Social Security and Medicare with great anticipation.
We didn't "pay into" any fund, vault of money, lock box, or security.
We paid taxes, and those are spent before they are even deducted.
ALL payments for Medicaid and Social Security come from payroll taxes on current workers or new debt.
Period.
As I stated before, I am not for eliminating these programs. They are earned Entitlements, as opposed to the obscene unearned giveaway programs:
Subsidized Phones for Low Income (ObamaPhones), EBT Food Stamps, Medicaid, Section 8 Housing, Unemployment, TANF Welfare, Energy Assistance, EITC, Foster Care Title IV, Old Age Assistance, AFDC, General Assistance Cash, Assets for Independence, General Assistance to Native Americans, SCHiP State Supplemental Health Insurance Program, Consolidated Health Centers, Consolidated Community Health, Maternal and Child Health Assistance Fund, Healthy Start, School Lunch, Job Assistance, Job Training, Minority Job Assistance, Job Relocation, Woman Infants and Children's Program, Nutrition for the Elderly, Summer Program, Summer Jobs Program, Minority Summer Jobs, Hispanic Jobs Program, African-American Jobs Program, Commodity Supplemental Food Program, Special Milk Program, Needy Families, Farmer's Market Nutrition Program, Public Housing, Low Income Energy Assistance, Migrant Education, Title One Grants to Local Education Authorities, Education for Homeless Children and Youth, Even Start, Job Corps, Social Security Disability, Social Security for Refugees, Social Security for Humanitarian Cases, Social Security for Asylum, Health Marriage and Responsible Fatherhood Grants, TANF Child Care, Empowerment Zones for Minority Communities, Urban Development Action Grants, and Family Planning (abortion).
But, they THREE WORST contributors to our debt and deficit are:
1. Medicare
2. Social Security
3. Medicaid
Until these are reformed, we are doomed as a nation.
One last “go again”.
Anyone who ignores or misrepresents facts to try to influence others to accept their off-the-wall point is no different than the liberals and that does get my dander up.
But the situation was about to get worse for Cantor’s plan.
At 2:56 p.m., an e-mail from the Club for Growth hit the Hill. It said the Club, feared even by its greatest detractors, would be tallying how lawmakers vote on the measure and would put the tally on its voting scorecard, from which it assesses the conservative purity of lawmakers. But the vote the group would be scoring wasn’t the one on the underlying bill — it was on the rule that governs debate, a provocative act. Such “rule votes” are party-line affairs, and abandoning one’s party in this situation is highly unusual. Now, House Republicans would have to choose between their leadership and a powerful conservative force. To make matters worse, Heritage Action followed about an hour later, and then so did FreedomWorks and the Family Research Council.
Ah...that's the key....NAMING & SHAMING these quisling RINO's on a website! That's what they fear the most!
They know conservatism WINS elections...and they don't want to be EXPOSED for the RINO's they've (mostly) become.
In post #24, you basically called another Freepers an “ignorant idiot.” Your previous posts are full of your attacks on the person instead of attacking the facts. Strike three. I am done with you. It is obvious you are motivated by your own checking account, not the good of the nation.
#28 made my day.
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