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AZ:Pima Co. agrees to settle over botched SWAT raid
kpho.com ^ | 4 September, 2013 | Morgan Loew

Posted on 09/15/2013 3:19:02 PM PDT by marktwain

TUCSON, AZ (CBS5) -

CBS 5 Investigates has learned that attorneys for Pima County have agreed to settle a case with the family of a slain Iraq War veteran, who was gunned down during a SWAT raid at the vet's home.

In the original claim, Jose Guerena's family demanded $20 million. The family's attorney, Christopher Scileppi, confirmed that the sides has reached an agreement, but that it still needed the approval of the county board of supervisors and the court. He did not say how much the family would receive in the settlement.

At issue was whether an innocent man was killed in the raid, and whether the detectives on the case had done enough investigation to warrant a SWAT team entry.

The raid took place on May 5, 2011 in a housing development outside Tucson. Video of the event shows SWAT members banging on the front door, announcing themselves and setting off flash-bang grenades in the backyard. After knocking down the front door, SWAT members fired more than 70 shots into the home.

A news release issued that day alleges that the SWAT members were confronted by Jose Guerena, who was carrying an AR-15 assault rifle and opened fire on the deputies. Four days later, PCSD released an updated version of the events, which indicated Guerena was carrying the firearm, but never opened fire. According to the second release, the gun's safety was on.

"Guilt by association. They thought that his brothers may be involved in some sort of drug trafficking organization, activity, whatever the case and they thought well, we'll just hit this house too," said Scileppi in November of last year, when CBS 5 Investigates first looked into the shooting.

Scileppi said Guerena and his wife believed they were the victims of a home invasion.

(Excerpt) Read more at kpho.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az; banglist; guerena; guncontrol; secondamendment; swat
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To: donmeaker
Their families are safe, or so they think.
DITTOS

41 posted on 09/15/2013 6:44:22 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Further, the same Dipstick is associated with mother of the Gabby Giffords shooter, and continually covered the kids record. Also, downplayed that the kid had a satanic alter in their backyard. Dipstick stressed that it was a 2nd amendment problem. Pima County, what are you thinking?


42 posted on 09/15/2013 8:44:36 PM PDT by SisterK (the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly Romans 16:20)
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To: SisterK

“Pima County, what are you thinking?” College town. Far too many ignorant people. Democratic Party stronghold headed the way of Detroit. If it weren’t for the college this place would fold. $230 million blown on a project called Rio Nuevo. Aptly named as it provided a New River of money to consultants and other assorted wheeler-dealers while producing nothing tangible. A Rainbow Bridge across the 10 Freeway downtown was all the rage. Now they’re installing a streetcar line from the college into downtown. They towed the streetcar down the line the other day to make sure it fit the areas it was meant to pass through. The overhead electric lines to run it aren’t installed as yet. Downtown is a typical Dem nightmare. Most of the surrounding area is populated by structures that made it through the last depression.

Do me a favor. Don’t come here. Spend your hard earned vacation dollars in Phoenix or Northern Arizona. Prescott or anywhere on the Mogollon Rim country. Hopefully the infant black hole here will enlarge enough to swallow this place and take the commies into the next dimension.


43 posted on 09/16/2013 12:03:43 AM PDT by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis)
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To: chulaivn66
Don’t come here. Spend your hard earned vacation dollars in Phoenix or Northern Arizona.

But, the property and everything is sooo cheap! and the liberals there are more conservative than the average conservative in Northern California yet I still get to feel like an insurgent when I visit! Makes me feel special. Last time I was there I bought so much stuff at the gun store I had to buy an extra suitcase to get it home! I could go on....

44 posted on 09/16/2013 1:10:07 AM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: B4Ranch

The taxpayer pay for it. It’s not like it comes out of the police pensions or their salaries.

Why would they stop?


45 posted on 09/16/2013 10:43:44 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: chulaivn66

No problem.
Lots of other parts of Arizona to spend money.
Starve the Beast.


46 posted on 09/16/2013 5:20:17 PM PDT by SisterK (the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly Romans 16:20)
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To: DuncanWaring

I think that he was, anyway he was working for a living and he and his wife were minding their own business. And for one reason or another, the police decided that a Mexican could not be living in a nice home like hey had without doing something illegal. So the SWAT team paid them a visit early one morning add he and his wife thought they were being hit by home invaders. He had his wife hide and got his rifle and went behind the couch. The rest is history, they not only shot him full of holes, they also murdered his character.


47 posted on 09/16/2013 5:38:40 PM PDT by sport
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To: Secret Agent Man

I were be willing that they were promoted.


48 posted on 09/16/2013 5:39:38 PM PDT by sport
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To: B4Ranch

Never happen, My FRiend. Why? Because the settlements come from the taxpayer. The departments, agencies, or individuals do not lose one penny out of their pockets. if the settlements came out of the department’s, agencies involved budgets or the individual killer[s] pocket, it might be a horse of a different color. As it now stands it just provides target practice for the police.


49 posted on 09/16/2013 5:45:06 PM PDT by sport
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To: marktwain

I’ve got a unique angle, I believe, to offer on this sort of stuff.

These squads today are little more than perfumed princes full of their own toy-soldier machismo that wouldn’t actually take a risk to help anybody. And if anybody actually dared to cut into their perks in the wake of a humongous botch like this, the wailing would be heard to the borders of the state.

Chivalry, in general, is in critical condition today.

We have a lack-of-faith-in-God problem here and I don’t mean an hour in church on Sunday — I mean 24/7 AFTER coming home from the church.


50 posted on 09/16/2013 5:57:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: NVDave
Every legislator finds a way of burying these settlement costs into the general budget and rolling the costs forward in the next bond issuance.

The fact is that it's not the cities the pay, it's their insurers.

51 posted on 09/16/2013 6:03:35 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I think you make a good point. I pray that we have a revival of faith.


52 posted on 09/16/2013 6:29:58 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

If this happens today it won’t be by a general Christianization and moralization of the society. That is a model which was brought, for worse or better, by the Roman church and was emulated to a lesser extent by its young evangelical daughters.

It will be more like 1st century. Very libertine society, and a gospel that literally popped.


53 posted on 09/16/2013 6:47:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Since insurance companies make a profit, we can assume from the mathematical evidence that the taxpayers (who pay the taxes that pay the premiums for these policies) are ultimately paying for the settlement. The insurance companies might just spread the pain over a number of years.


54 posted on 09/17/2013 10:17:08 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: marktwain

The shooting started when one of the fat-assed SWATers tripped on the way into the house and shot the door frame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHYVdA6O6u4


55 posted on 09/17/2013 10:23:57 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
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To: NVDave
The insurance companies might just spread the pain over a number of years.

And over what I assume is a large pool of municipalities and agencies.

56 posted on 09/17/2013 10:48:51 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

None of the videos I’ve seen before have audio of the team announcing themselves like the one at the link above.

Compare to this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkKDJkM5HU


57 posted on 09/17/2013 10:52:33 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Not necessarily. I’ve seen the types of policies to which you’re referring.

If a sovereign has a large number of claims, these insurance companies can drop the sovereign or increase the rates. The insurance companies aren’t stupid - they look at the number of claims filed, for *what* (that’s a very important thing - things like corruption and graft run up premiums) and the credit rating of the sovereign when computing the premiums they charge.

There’s nothing like an “assigned risk” pool going on in this market. I’ll wager anything that LA’s premiums went up after the LAPD hosed down those two women in a pickup delivering papers, because it wasn’t a case of a single stupid cop - there were “at least” seven cops in on that stupidity. That’s a showing of huge failures in training and judgement - the likes of which we see in only major cities like NYC and Chicago.

Sometimes, the insurance companies settle cases to limit their exposure, too. That’s a pretty funny coin flip from what we’re talking about above. I know of one case in a rural NV county where the county sheriff got a little zealous in taking in a couple of good ol’ boys on a noise complaint. The old codgers made bail, dialed up a lawyer and filed suit in about three days’ time, saying that a noise complaint in no way merits and arrest and booking, excessive force, depravation of civil rights under color of law, etc.

The insurance company could see a big loss coming their way if they allowed this to go to a trial with a jury, so they paid the codgers off, ex-parte from the DA’s charges on the two old codgers. Codgers dropped their lawsuit, with the condition that the insurance company go to work on the county government to drop the misdemeanor charges of excessive noise, disturbing the peace, etc.

The DA, county commissioners, and sheriff were all very PO’ed that the insurance company paid a five-digit amount. The insurance company responded with a couple of their lawyers, telling the county “You were going to lose, period, end of story. We paid them off to limit our financial exposure to your actions, now we suggest you drop the criminal case...”

Case dropped. Taxpayers relieved, because the judgement would have increased taxes to pay the increased premiums or the settlement if it went to trial. Big settlements in small population counties kinda bring these financial situations up to the surface rather quickly.


58 posted on 09/17/2013 11:17:41 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Valpal1; All

“Crap, the fact that voters won’t even bother to remove trash like Dipstick from office is disheartening.”

If they read freerepublic he would be out of office. The Democrat/progressive machine in Pima County protects him. The media there is highly protective of him.

The article quoted is from KPHO, CBS5, which is located in Phoenix.


59 posted on 09/26/2013 6:40:44 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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