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Are terrorists setting U.S. wildfires? Ex-NSA official: Al-Qaida ignited California blazes
wnd ^ | 9/11/13 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 09/11/2013 8:11:39 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: mylife

quickly may be a matter of perspective.

when some of these 100 year fires take off...their recovery...may be a reflection of the periods of thier occurance


61 posted on 09/11/2013 10:30:39 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Manzanita is special, it burns hot like the sun.

I always used that for cooking in Ca.

The kids would say “these awe the best hawmbuwgers ever”

You cant even harvest that stuff when its down now, and that is what I used.
Downed Manzanita.


62 posted on 09/11/2013 10:41:43 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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Gnight Gang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwsSVOHEcYM


63 posted on 09/11/2013 10:45:07 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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Dumbass video but a great tune

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/the-manzanita-tree-heidi-smith.jpg


64 posted on 09/11/2013 10:48:34 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Nachum

Yes, terrorists ARE setting California on fire. The Sierra Club.


65 posted on 09/12/2013 12:02:12 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Australia? What?

I thought Muslim’s only hated the USA Great Satan? You mean they hate all Western/Christian nations? /Sarcie sarc sarc sarc.


66 posted on 09/12/2013 12:04:16 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I am thinking over the last 8 to 10 years - I just don’t recall hearing of so many fires prior to this.

I would imagine that the conditions certainly add to the devastation, but I am quite sure they are being set, as some other posts on this thread verify.


67 posted on 09/12/2013 4:57:19 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: mylife

Isn’t it ironic that people who lived in the mid 1800’s “understood” fully that point?

And the founders much earlier had such wisdom as to dumfound modern thinkers.

We have a false sense of our own knowledge due to the technological innovations that have been accomplished. Even our scientists fool themselves with this.

Knowledge is one thing, but Wisdom is a much more complex set of skills.

Foresight? How do you teach that skill? That is the key skill for a great leader.

FROM that same Essay:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/15962/15962-h/15962-h.htm

“That Which Is Seen, and That Which Is Not Seen”

In the department of economy, an act, a habit, an institution, a law, gives birth not only to an effect, but to a series of effects. Of these effects, the first only is immediate; it manifests itself simultaneously with its cause—it is seen. The others unfold in succession—they are not seen: it is well for us if they are foreseen. Between a good and a bad economist this constitutes the whole difference—the one takes account of the visible effect; the other takes account both of the effects which are seen and also of those which it is necessary to foresee. Now this difference is enormous, for it almost always happens that when the immediate consequence is favourable, the ultimate consequences are fatal, and the converse. Hence it follows that the bad economist pursues a small present good, which will be followed by a great evil to come, while the true economist pursues a great good to come, at the risk of a small present evil.

In fact, it is the same in the science of health, arts, and in that of morals. If often happens, that the sweeter the first fruit of a habit is, the more bitter are the consequences. Take, for example, debauchery, idleness, prodigality. When, therefore, a man, absorbed in the effect which is seen, has not yet learned to discern those which are not seen, he gives way to fatal habits, not only by inclination, but by calculation.

This explains the fatally grievous condition of mankind. Ignorance surrounds its cradle: then its actions are determined by their first consequences, the only ones which, in its first stage, it can see. It is only in the long run that it learns to take account of the others. It has to learn this lesson from two very different masters—experience and foresight. Experience teaches effectually, but brutally. It makes us acquainted with all the effects of an action, by causing us to feel them; and we cannot fail to finish by knowing that fire burns, if we have burned ourselves. For this rough teacher, I should like, if possible, to substitute a more gentle one. I mean Foresight. For this purpose I shall examine the consequences of certain economical phenomena, by placing in opposition to each other those which are seen, and those which are not seen.


68 posted on 09/12/2013 5:31:43 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

well.. theres the Great Satan....the Midsize Satans. the Compact Satans..and of course the ever popular Sub Compact Satans

Given Australias size geographically they are probably referred to as the Luxury Midsize Satan!


69 posted on 09/12/2013 6:55:40 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: JudyinCanada
I am thinking over the last 8 to 10 years - I just don’t recall hearing of so many fires prior to this.

More like fifteen, but that is correct. The reason is mismanagement of the National Forests.

70 posted on 09/12/2013 7:09:25 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Nachum

The Mexican Cartels aren’t too happy about it either.


71 posted on 09/12/2013 10:00:37 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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