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Retreat: Obama now interested in Russian diplomatic track as Reid puts Senate vote on hold
Hotair ^ | 09/10/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 09/10/2013 6:57:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/10/2013 6:57:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Not a fan of Putin but I love the way he ridicules zero LOL


2 posted on 09/10/2013 6:58:33 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: SeekAndFind
Too bad. I wanted to see the resolution come up for a vote, in both the Senate and the House.

It would have been an epic slapdown for Obama.

3 posted on 09/10/2013 6:59:30 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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Putin's kicking O'butt but good.....and this latest Onono fiasco puts the kibosh to Hillary's ambitions.

The Democrats' 'Smart Power' Lies in Ruins
National Review | Sept 3, 2013 | Jim Geraghty / FR Posted by kristinn

Democrats Suddenly Realize What They Miscalculated About the World: Everything

As we await Congress’ decision on authorizing the use of U.S. military force in Syria, Democrats are suddenly realizing that their foreign policy brain-trust completely misjudged the world.

Being nicer to countries like Russia will not make them nicer to you. The United Nations is not an effective tool for resolving crises. Some foreign leaders are beyond persuasion and diplomacy. There is no “international community” ready to work together to solve problems, and there probably never will be.

You can pin this on Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Susan Rice, but most of all, the buck stops with the president. Those of us who scoffed a bit at a state senator ascending to the presidency within four years on a wave of media hype and adoration are not quite so shocked by this current mess.

We never bought into this notion that getting greater cooperation from our allies, and less hostility from our enemies, was just a matter of giving this crew the wheel and letting them practice, as Hillary Clinton arrogantly declared it, “smart power” (and fronted Time magazine cover).

(These people can’t even label a foreign policy approach without reminding us of how highly they think of themselves.)

They looked out at the world at the end of the Bush years, and didn’t see tough decisions, unsolvable problems, unstable institutions, restless populations, technology enabling the impulse to destabilize existing institutions, evil men hungry for more power, and difficult trade-offs.

No, our problems and challengers were just a matter of the previous hands running U.S. foreign policy not being smart enough. (Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...

4 posted on 09/10/2013 7:02:27 AM PDT by Liz
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RE: Not a fan of Putin but I love the way he ridicules zero LOL

If this plan really works out, they should take Obama’s Nobel Prize from him and give it to Putin instead....

But we don’t live in a just world...


5 posted on 09/10/2013 7:03:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Obama lied to us about Benghazi, and then spent a year covering up his dereliction of duty as Commander In Chief during the critical hours of the Benghazi Massacre.

Can anyone in the US Military trust Obama?

Why should we taxpayers trust Obama?

Who can trust someone whose own sealed personal records cannot be verified?

Obama cannot be trusted or verified is the obvious conclusion.


6 posted on 09/10/2013 7:03:28 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama is finished, failure at every turn!!! Democrats...use your God given brains....force Obama to resign, impeach him...or, go down with him!!! End of story!!!


7 posted on 09/10/2013 7:08:03 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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OBAMA HILLARY LOVE FEST ON 60 MINUTES---Obobo had
just hustled her onto TV to gaze in adoration, after her arrogant
dismissal of the Benghazi massacre before Congress.Now she's under
the bus along w/ Susan Rice who was being groomed for a Hillary Admin, thanks to the Syria fiasco.


8 posted on 09/10/2013 7:11:44 AM PDT by Liz
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope everyone is NOT missing the point here.

Putin/Russia was already an ally to Syria.

There are Russian interests there that Russia considers worth fighting for, maybe even a real war.

Kerry’s stupid remark reference Syria turning their gas weapons over to an international organization and Putin’s immediate offer to take on that responsibility now puts Putin totally and completely in the driver’s seat as to what happens in Syria from now on.

Because the US is totally shut out of any decision making regarding Syria.

That means Russia is now in the driver’s seat.

However, it could also mean that Putin is in the driver’s seat of a totally uncontrollable vehicle headed for the cliff.

Time will tell. But the ride will be very interesting.


9 posted on 09/10/2013 7:13:22 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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Being nicer to countries like Russia will not make them nicer to you.

I like Geraghty, but he is either being disingenuous or out of his depth commenting on foreign policy. Toppling another of Russia's client regimes (in addition to Libya) isn't being nice to Russia. The so-called reset changed very little - in Russian eyes, we are still putting the screws to them. And understandably so. If the Russians installed pro-Russian regimes in Saudi Arabia or Qatar, we wouldn't consider these to be friendly actions.

10 posted on 09/10/2013 7:15:13 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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O actually wants the public to believe tonight that he kinda sorta intended this outcome.

Let's roll back the tape, shall we? Before the 'Gaffe Heard 'Round the World', US policy pushed for the overthrow of Assad. But overnight, our policy has reversed. The US must now protect Assad since he alone is the only one who can direct UN inspectors towards existing stockpiles. Before long, Assad will be requesting US assistance in clearing out rebels who are jeopardizing this entire 'international' effort.

And keep in mind that this whole thing started because Obama wanted to punish Assad for using chemical weapons. Assad has now been handed a free pass.

11 posted on 09/10/2013 7:20:47 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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Ohoho announced publicly that he’d explain to the nation why enforcing the WMD “red line” is (ahem) important. He also marshaled his most credible (cackle) minions to go out and sell the strike. Benghazi screw-up Susan Rice is pumping her resume like crazy---being sent to:

<><> give a speech about Syria to the New America Foundation,

<><> speak to the Congressional Black Caucus

<><> participate in a classified briefing that the administration will provide to members of Congress, and,

<><> participate in another classified briefing for Congress on Wednesday.

The latter occurs on the twelfth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the U.S. homeland and the one year anniversary of the terrorist attacks on the State Department and CIA facilities in Benghazi, Libya.

Susan's argument is that a strike is necessary b/c we have "exhausted" all other means.

I guess Putin did not get the memo.

12 posted on 09/10/2013 7:22:36 AM PDT by Liz
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That means Russia is now in the driver’s seat. However, it could also mean that Putin is in the driver’s seat of a totally uncontrollable vehicle headed for the cliff. Time will tell. But the ride will be very interesting.

They've always been in the driver's seat. I don't understand why Putin is letting this charade play out. They have a nuclear veto and can deploy it simply by sending a confidential message to Obama to the effect that any attack on Syria will be considered an attack on Russia, and that strategic weapons will be used to repel the attack. What amazes me is how much ground the Russians have ceded since the end of the Cold War without much demur. It appears to rankle with ordinary Russians, which is why they keep on re-electing Putin. We've gotten used to the bear rolling over. I'm just worried that one of these days, they'll issue a threat, we'll ignore it, and we'll end up with a nuclear exchange. Heck, all of this theater over Assad handing over his chemical arsenal might simply be cover for the fact that Putin told Obama that he had better not attack Syria unless he's prepared to see our Mediterranean fleet thoroughly irradiated.

13 posted on 09/10/2013 7:25:02 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So did Kerry have a bug on him when he got together with the Russians?


14 posted on 09/10/2013 7:26:03 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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You’re quite right...Syria is a Russian ally which comes with duties and obligations. Putin has been telling Obama to stay out of it...as it only feeds the flames...and alqueda.


15 posted on 09/10/2013 7:29:40 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Looks like someone called Mr. Husband’s bluff.


16 posted on 09/10/2013 7:32:00 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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 photo sevendaysinSeptember_zps41d38b21.jpg If only 'what goes around comes around' REALLY came true.
17 posted on 09/10/2013 7:33:37 AM PDT by RetSignman (Standing my ground against group think.)
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Putin, once again saving the Current Occupant of the White Hut from himself.

Syria has agreed to international inspection of chemical weapons, but has the Current Occupant? He still needs some kind of crisis to divert attention from the burgeoning outbreaks of both potential and outright treasonous acts that have occurred during his tenure.

Some 95% of the personal woe in this world is self-induced.


18 posted on 09/10/2013 7:36:15 AM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s no doubt Russia stepped in after we agreed to give a few billion dollars to various groups. I’m convinced we bought our way out of Obammy’s mess with tax payer dollars.


19 posted on 09/10/2013 7:36:56 AM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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Obama leading from behind as usual. Too bad he wasn’t bright enough to think of demanding the WMD be turned over the UN control. Too bad nobody in his regime was smart enough to think of it. Upstaged by Putey. Pretty sad.


20 posted on 09/10/2013 7:39:46 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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