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Scientist Suggests 'We Are Actually All Martians' (Institute for Creation Research article)
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 9-9-13 | Brian Thomas

Posted on 09/09/2013 9:39:30 AM PDT by fishtank

Scientist Suggests 'We Are Actually All Martians' by Brian Thomas, M.S. *

Did life originate on Mars? During a keynote address at the 2013 Goldschmidt Geochemistry Conference in Florence, Italy, Steven Benner postulated that it did. Benner, from The Westheimer Institute for Science and Technology in Gainesville, Florida, works in the field of "applied molecular evolution" where he attempts to reconstruct conditions that may have led to the spontaneous generation of life's biochemicals from inorganic compounds. In his address, he suggested life began on Mars then somehow migrated the more than 30 million miles to Earth.1 Could any realistic set of factors make this proposal feasible?

Benner's presentation abstract listed the following four paradoxes as challenges to the naturalistic origin of life he defends:

The "Tar Paradox" shows that adding energy to simple organic molecules—energy required to convert them into molecules of life—always converts them into black goo "better suited for paving roads than supporting Darwinian evolution."1 The "Water Paradox" describes the fact that on the one hand, water facilitates vital chemical reactions inside a cell, but on the other hand, water destroys raw biomolecules. Actual living cells use several tactics to control water's potentially harmful impact on their vital biochemistry. The "Single Biopolymer Paradox" notes that the hypothetical conditions that might build one required type of biopolymer, like DNA, are not the same as those envisioned to build another type, like protein. The problem is that all of life's biopolymers need to form at the same time and place if they are going to move toward becoming the first functioning cell. The "Probability Paradox" explains that RNA molecules tend to accelerate harmful chemical reactions despite their theoretical usefulness in accelerating reactions needed for biological life.1 Why would Benner list paradoxes that challenge his own perspective? It's because he believes that solutions are out there. For example, highly oxidized molybdenum atoms can catalyze reactions that produce compounds resembling real-life biochemicals. BBC News said that Benner's presentation suggested that in the distant past Mars had abundant oxygen and molybdenum—and just the right amount of water and radiation at just the right time—to generate life.2

However, the difference between merely resembling a biochemical and actually being that biochemical is as critical as the difference between aspirin and cyanide. Both are white and come in small pill form, but one is deadly and the other is not. In any case, no experiment under any condition yet tested has demonstrated how the existence of molybdenum could have actually solved any of the four listed paradoxes to life's origin.

So, the paradoxes remain paradoxical. But it gets worse.

Benner skipped over other paradoxes, any of which render nature-only origin of life scenarios—whether on Mars or any place imaginable—impossible. The paradox of chirality, for example, notes that biological life requires that certain of its biochemicals maintain a particular "handedness"—either right or left.3 However, the enzymes that maintain the correct handedness in other molecules require properly "handed" biochemicals in their own construction. So, in order to get the proper handedness into life-giving biochemicals, handedness must already exist in other biochemicals—a fact that weakens any argument for naturalistic origin.

An energy paradox exists, as well. The biochemicals that provide cellular fuel actually require a form of fuel that other biochemicals manufacture.4 Additionally, prior research highlighted radiation and diffusion as lethal origin of life problems.5, 6 The hardest hit to Benner's theory, however, is that he has omitted perhaps the most critical paradox that naturalistic life-origins scenarios face: Cellular life requires vast amounts of intricately coded information, and nature never supplies information.4

Space.com quotes Benner as saying, "Evidence is building that Earth life originated on Mars and was brought to this planet aboard a meteorite."7 Evidence is building no such case for Mars—unless by "evidence" Benner means "wild, wild speculation." Ancient, imaginary Martian conditions do not solve biochemical problems that vex modern, intelligent experimenters.

References

Benner, S.A. 2013. Keynote: Planets, Minerals and Life's Origin. Mineralogical Magazine. 77 (5): 686.

Redfern, S. Earth life 'may have come from Mars.' BBC News. Posted on Bbc.co.uk August 28, 2013, accessed August 29, 2013.

McCombs, C. 2004. Evolution Hopes You Don't Know Chemistry: The Problem with Chirality. Acts & Facts. 33 (5).

Thomas, B. ATP synthase: majestic molecular machine made by a mastermind. Creation. 31(4): 21-23.

Thomas, B. Is Life Forming on Titan? Creation Science Update. Posted on icr.org October 20, 2010, accessed August 29, 2013.

Thomas, B. Critique of 'Primordial Soup' Vindicates Creation Research. Creation Science Update. Posted on icr.org February 11, 2010, accessed August 29, 2013. Wall, M. Earth Life Likely Came from Mars, Study Suggests. Space.com. Posted on Space.com August 28, 2013, accessed August 30, 2013.

* Mr. Thomas is Science Writer at the Institute for Creation Research.

Article posted on September 9, 2013.


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To: Blood of Tyrants
You can have an atmosphere without a hydrosphere, but it’s not going to have very much free oxygen in it, and no free hydrogen. Venus has an atmosphere, but it’s 96½ percent CO2, and water is present only at a very small 20 parts per million.

What Mars and Venus don’t have that Earth does have is a strong magnetic field generated by the planet’s core.
22 posted on 09/09/2013 10:00:22 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: camle

Don't forget John Carter.

23 posted on 09/09/2013 10:01:36 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

‘We Are Actually All Martians’

Thank God. For a minute I thought it said “we are all Muslims”.


24 posted on 09/09/2013 10:01:50 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: fishtank
Men Without Bones
25 posted on 09/09/2013 10:02:29 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: F15Eagle

Yeah, it’s going to be tough for anything to survive on Mars.

But, if it survives the trip there, then it might be well suited (by it’s Creator) to multiply even on Mars.


26 posted on 09/09/2013 10:03:28 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

The idiots can’t figure out how life started on Earth, so they push it off to Mars where it’s impossible to verify the hypothesis or to disprove it.

This is not science.

Face it, scientists, there are a few questions that you guys are not able to answer.
1. origin of life
2. origin of the universe
3. explanation of the complexity of DNA
4. how the mind works

Get to work!


27 posted on 09/09/2013 10:03:32 AM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: fishtank
Even those who believe that the Annunaki came from their home planet Nibiru and created humans on Earth as slaves to mine gold believe in God as the creator of all life. I think..

http://anunnakis.com/about/

28 posted on 09/09/2013 10:07:14 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: fishtank
That explains a lot.

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29 posted on 09/09/2013 10:08:22 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: fishtank

Maybe these leftard non humans came from Mars but I came from GOD by the grace of GOD. I was saved by JESUS.

LLS


30 posted on 09/09/2013 10:09:03 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: fishtank

Only if Adam had a rocket ship and drove it here from Mars.


31 posted on 09/09/2013 10:09:44 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: fishtank

32 posted on 09/09/2013 10:09:47 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

P.S. In Anunnaki lore, it is said that Noah did exist. He was a King. He built the Ark, not to carry living animals but as a DNA library with blood samples and not the animals themselves. I’ll buy that.


33 posted on 09/09/2013 10:11:14 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: fishtank

This Benner is obviously no scientist. His “paradoxes” are all wrong.

> The “Tar Paradox” shows that adding energy to simple
> organic molecules—energy required to convert them into
> molecules of life—always converts them into black goo

It does nothing of the sort. Adding energy to organic molecules makes them hot. Sometimes that makes them react with each other and form other organic molecules, most of which are not black or gooey. Heating up organic molecules is how pretty much everything is made in today’s industrial world. We can make tar, if that’s what we want, but we also make gasoline, aspirin, gunpowder, polyurethane, detergent, grits, perfume, and many other useful things. In living cells, adding energy to organic molecules is what makes all the protein machinery work that makes us what we are.

> “Water Paradox” describes the fact that on the one hand,
> water facilitates vital chemical reactions inside a cell,
> but on the other hand, water destroys raw biomolecules.

Water does not destroy raw biomolecules. Pretty much all biomolecules are water soluble and will in fact not function correctly without it.

> The “Single Biopolymer Paradox” notes that the
> hypothetical conditions that might build one required
> type of biopolymer, like DNA, are not the same as those
> envisioned to build another type, like protein.

So what? Conditions change and every spot in the world has different conditions. A polymer made in one place can eventually float to another where another polymer was made in different conditions. That’s how you can get limestone, diamonds, peat, and grass all in the same place.

> The problem is that all of life’s biopolymers need to
> form at the same time and place if they are going to move
> toward becoming the first functioning cell.

If you are expecting to find all these parts magically sticking together to form a functioning cell purely at random, you’ll be waiting a long time. This can not and did not happen. Just as in evolution, before you get a chicken or an egg, you’ll get something that looks kinda like a chicken, that was born from something that looked even less like it. Likewise, with a living cell you’d get something that functions with a lot fewer parts than the cells you see today. No, we do not know today what that protocell might have looked like. We’ll have to try different possibilities and see what works.

> The “Probability Paradox” explains that RNA molecules
> tend to accelerate harmful chemical reactions despite
> their theoretical usefulness in accelerating reactions
> needed for biological life.

RNA does not accelerate anything (although it is possible to artificially fold it in ways that would); RNA provides a template for protein construction, that’s what it’s for.

> For example, highly oxidized molybdenum atoms can
> catalyze reactions that produce compounds resembling
> real-life biochemicals.

Molybdenum’s chemistry is not special. All metals exhibit some sort of electron-donor reactivity, catalyzing reactions that produce compounds resembling real-life biochemicals. The reason we use different metals is that different metals are more effective at catalyzing different types of reactions. If lower efficiency is acceptable, as it is when you have millions of years to spare, pretty much any metal will do.

All these things are known to anybody with high school knowledge of chemistry and biology. This “scientist” clearly is a dropout, since I have difficulty believing he could get through college while retaining such appalling ignorance.


34 posted on 09/09/2013 10:29:39 AM PDT by Driabrin
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To: fishtank

Well of course we are from Mars!

Quatermass And The PIT. or Five Million Years To Earth.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062168/?ref_=sr_2

Storyline

“While digging a new subway line in London, a construction crew discovers first: a skeleton, then what they think is an old World War II German missle. Upon closer examination the “missle” appears to be not of this earth! This movie examines the age old question of how we came to be on this planet. It is suprizingly scary.”


35 posted on 09/09/2013 10:31:15 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

36 posted on 09/09/2013 10:34:37 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: fishtank

I am sure he is correct - just ask Professor Quartermass!

http://www.amazon.com/Quatermass-The-Pit-Television-Starring/dp/B0038MC1FO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378748062&sr=8-1&keywords=quartermass+dvd


37 posted on 09/09/2013 10:34:38 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: a fool in paradise

Recently I was informed that abiogenesis is the process through which life first appeared on earth. That is, genesis of life from not life. Spontaneously, no initiating or controlling external intelligence involved or required.


38 posted on 09/09/2013 10:35:55 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Jeff Chandler

Ya just beat me!


39 posted on 09/09/2013 10:36:15 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: fishtank

About as silly as ICRs Noah Ark theory.

I know, maybe life did start on Mars and that is where the great flood was and Noah’s Ark spilled off the Mars waterfall and landed on earth....DA-Da.

Marry both sides silly ideas.


40 posted on 09/09/2013 10:43:42 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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