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President Obama could lose big on Syria in House
Politico ^ | Sept 5, 2013 | By JOHN BRESNAHAN and JAKE SHERMAN

Posted on 09/05/2013 7:05:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

If the House voted today on a resolution to attack Syria, President Barack Obama would lose — and lose big.

That’s the private assessment of House Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides who are closely involved in the process.

If the Senate passes a use-of-force resolution next week — which is no sure thing — the current dynamics suggest that the House would defeat it. That would represent a dramatic failure for Obama, and once again prove that his sway over Congress is extraordinarily limited. The loss would have serious reverberations throughout the next three months, when Obama faces off against Congress in a series of high-stakes fiscal battles.

Several Republican leadership aides, who are counting votes but not encouraging a position, say that there are roughly one to two dozen “yes” votes in favor of military action at this time. The stunningly low number is expected to grow a bit.

But senior aides say they expect, at most, between 50 and 60 Republicans to vote with Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), who support the president’s plan to bomb Syria to stop Bashar Assad from using chemical weapons on his people. That would amount to less than one-third of the House Republican Conference.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obama; syria; war
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To: bramps

Russia has.


41 posted on 09/05/2013 7:31:10 PM PDT by DeWalt
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Kerry has already said that Arab money is available for the USA if we take out Assad.

What if OPEC is threatening to abandon the US dollar for the oil markets? Once they pull this card out of the house of cards, the gig is up. Imagine the US dollar no longer the dominant world currency.


42 posted on 09/05/2013 7:35:53 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Jim Robinson

43 posted on 09/05/2013 7:36:04 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: listenhillary

Then we get our idiots in congress to build the dam pipeline and go with domestic oil and the Saudis gig is up.


44 posted on 09/05/2013 7:38:51 PM PDT by DeWalt
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To: All

The only way to stop him if congress votes him down is for the military brass to tell him, in private so he can save face, that they will not obey an illegal order. I won’t hold my breath.


45 posted on 09/05/2013 7:38:57 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, one thing I am thinking about is if the new allegations that either the US or Israel or both in perhaps even consultations with say the Saudis, literally modified the original communications with the Syrian military regarding the August 21st release of CW upon the Syrian population, within the Capital's perimeter, THAT, this becomes how should I say ballistic within both Houses of Congress.

That this whole episode will quickly come to an end and both sides of the Congress will turn to more important things like strongly considering impeachment of the Kenyan.

It's a sad day in Hell when this Freeper starts to actually believe what the Russians have been elucidating about on this issue, as having some merit.

Please do not feel obligated to respond. I'm just voicing some things I believe may have some merit to consider.
46 posted on 09/05/2013 7:41:36 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: LeoWindhorse
Who are the courageous ones
in Congress to get that process going ?
certainly; not the GOP Congressional Leadership, a bunch abject (Establishment) cowards.
none of them, worth a $h¡t.

47 posted on 09/05/2013 7:42:16 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: listenhillary
Screw the Arabs.

It was our technology that brought them oil and without our purchase and refining capabilities they’d be back shaking their cups for coins. There is no reason to be held hostage by people barely a step above Neanderthals.

48 posted on 09/05/2013 7:43:00 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: C210N

After listening to views from various people about current events that actually live or work in Syria, reading lots of news articles, and reviewing facts and aspects of the Syrian Saga including the Benghazi Betrayal I feel that there is a good posibility that Assad might have been setup so that he could be ousted because he would not allow natural gas companies in Qatar to lay pipes across Syria. Add to that, that natural gas is believed, by many in the industry, to be the next big thing and that Qatar paid 3 billion to the Syrian rebels that Chris Stevens was reportedly supplying arms to for the CIA AND the fact that ths very Seal Team 6 members that took Osama bin Laden were killed during the Benghazi debacle and it makes you wonder. It certainly makes scratch my head and I’m a skeptic by nature. I guess its not paranoia if it’s real...


49 posted on 09/05/2013 7:43:07 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: VerySadAmerican

www.senate.gov

www.house.gov

Keep the pressure on. Make the calls. Send the emails.

These clowns are bound and determined to start a war with their “limited action”, which will spiral out of control like the beginning of WWI 99 years ago.

Not bombing Syria will save more lives than if we do bomb them.

Seriously.


50 posted on 09/05/2013 7:43:31 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim,

A bad situation: best outcome — Pres. Dystopia folds and goes home from the card game.

Likely outcome: Congress votes down the attack, and the Muslim Brother launches his army to attack Syria.

Response: Russia attacks American warships and planes in the region; Israel receives a rainstorm of Syrian Hezbullah and Iranian missiles.

A vote in Congress will not influence the dictator. Russia will enact economic sanctions against America, probably including a naval blockade of oil tankers seeking passage through the Hormuz.


51 posted on 09/05/2013 7:44:45 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Jim Robinson

The calls to congress are coming in overwhelmingly against the Syrian strike/war.


52 posted on 09/05/2013 7:45:04 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Jim Robinson

No war for ego.

This needs to be voted down. Force Obama to do this on his own, then arrest, impeach, convict and incarcerate his sorry a$$. Yes, I know it’s just another one of my wild fantasies.


53 posted on 09/05/2013 7:45:31 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: G Larry

Personally I could care less about O. This is about our soldiers and doing what is right.


54 posted on 09/05/2013 7:46:43 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Old Sarge
They'll vote AFTER the propaganda war escalates, the MSM and Hollywood bedazzle the masses, and the NSA intercepts of each and every Republican Congresscritter are ready to be faxed to CNN.

And after Obama finishes bribing them. "You want that federal grant for your district, Congressman? All it would take is a simple 'yes' vote on the Syria resolution."

55 posted on 09/05/2013 7:47:07 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Jim Robinson
To paraphrase: ‘Obama’s ego is writing checks that his abilities can't cash’. Maybe he will think before spewing BS next time...........NAH, Not the Malignant Narcissist in Chief!
56 posted on 09/05/2013 7:48:01 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Jim Robinson

While I’d like to believe this is true, in my heart of hearts, I think the Pubs are going to pussy out.


57 posted on 09/05/2013 7:48:43 PM PDT by Nachoman (Wisdom is learned, cynicism is earned.)
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To: grumpygresh

A lot of local polls across the nation are running 80% to 95% against.


58 posted on 09/05/2013 7:50:11 PM PDT by DeWalt
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To: Nachoman
in my heart of hearts, I think the Pubs are going to pussy out.

In other news, Sun rises in the East.

59 posted on 09/05/2013 7:50:39 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: FlyingEagle

If congress votes it down, and the Muslim brother launches the attack on Syria without consent, there will be a good chance of a coup if the situation leads to a wider war. There may come a time where a coup would be the only way to prevent a total takeover and martial crackdown by our evil dictator.


60 posted on 09/05/2013 7:52:02 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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