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It is best to stay away, Joe. Because even you get a ccl and carry and venture in , you are setting yourself up to a game you won't win. Why? Because if you go in there and get seriously injured or killed, you lose. Also, if push come to shove and you kill or injure some of them, then you still lose because the law is going to jump on you with both feet like they did George Zimmerman and you still lose. Even if acquitted as Zimmerman was, your life is still ruined. You end up broke, all your money went to lawyers to defend you. You can't find a job and the media is constantly hounding you.

It is best all round to avoid those places all together and if worse comes to worse do what you have to do and get it over with.

Back when I was young and we were uncivilized, it was the bad guys that kept a low profile. But now that the people decided they wanted to become civilized, it is the law abiding that have to walk softly. Each time I reflect on how bad that seems, I end up with, well that was what they wanted, now they have it.