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To: HiTech RedNeck
My intent was not to “trash” the basis of your faith. I accept your belief in Christ as Lord & Savior but the Trilogy is a difficult concept to understand to one not brought up in it.
So, let me restate my view.
In our view, this is no Trilogy. There is only G-d and Man.
Man must perform (or, if you will, serve) G-d via a tool called “Mitzvot”. A “Mitzva” (singular form) as you probably know the word from the Jewish ritual of a young man's Bar Mitzva or son of a good deed or commandment are those commandments handed down from G-d to Man, BETWEEN G-d and Man.
But, there are a second and more important set of Mitzvot. Those between Man and Man or how we conduct our daily lives and relationships with our fellow men.

You can go to Church or Synagogue punctually everyday but if you run your life outside of these Man to Man values, you are in trouble.

So, we put our behavior and values above the Synagogue building edifice. This is where it counts. I do not need absolution from a Priest or Rabbi. These men are men, not above G-d and they are guides but not more than that.

Man did not need and intermediary demi-G-d in order for His message to be understood. It's between you and your Creator.

In any event, thank you for those Rosh Ha Shana (Jewish New Year blessings.

We have been at this 5,774 years by now and our faith and adherence to Torah has lasted all tests of time.

Thank you Sir.

35 posted on 09/04/2013 9:25:53 PM PDT by Netz
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To: Netz

How many distortions are here in your answer? Surely even if you disagree you’d like to get the facts straight?

It’s Trinity, not Trilogy. A trilogy is what a fiction author might write. A “trinity” is a term Christians came up with to describe what had already been revealed to them as a real God possessing a character that manifests in three persons, and interestingly enough trinitarians are accepted as monotheists in most rabbinical circles (one common analogy is that the three Persons are viewed as spokes in a wheel that yet remains one wheel). This happens to matter to the rabbis when the Christian is a servant in a Jewish household, for instance, so that various customary prohibitions on idolaters and polytheists are not violated. God let it matter to them so that they would go clearly on record about it.

The priestly confession is a Roman Catholic practice. Crazy evangelicals like me beg to disagree about that. Confession and forsaking of sin, personally and privately, to the Lord is sufficient and several New Testament verses back that up. At best a congregational leader facilitating a confession is led by God in which case they are only giving a reading of what God says, which will always be to accept a sincere confession. And they shouldn’t be sloppy about presuming that they are getting a reading from God any more than any Joe Blow could be a Hebrew prophet.

We Christians do assert that no man has the right to place a spiritual bondage upon another man. All such bondage is held as null and void by the Lord. If you won’t forgive your neighbor, that doesn’t put a valid spiritual claim against your neighbor. Yes this flies in the face of a lot of rabbinical custom and you should get a clue that these rabbis are playing with spiritual fire here!

God is not preserving you folks because your behavior is so wonderful or even because you say you adhere to a Torah you break every day. God is preserving you folks because God promised to — WELL before the Law was given. Don’t give your efforts such airs. Give the Lord some glory for what He has done for you in spite of you.


36 posted on 09/04/2013 10:36:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Netz

Also... you DID trash it... read your words, a quite distorted account of Christian claims and no attempt to even understand... you hate the Christian claims, admit it. Hate them to the bottom of your heart.

If Christians had the slightest reason to believe Christ was anything less than real, would they be trying to bless people having such hate? They wouldn’t. Why court the headache?

You’re proud of your faith, how it has kept you and your people (as you view it). How about being infinitely MORE proud of the Lord God for what He has done for you, even as you understand Him now? That’s what I mean by being jealous for His name. One’s name is one’s fame, in biblical terms. Consider Job. Job had to be taught a painful lesson so he wouldn’t get stuck in his worship life, as well as he was doing. God wanted Job to open up to a fuller reverence of the Lord in His glory. Once Job did, then Job was blessed twice as much.


37 posted on 09/04/2013 10:52:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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