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To: Future Snake Eater
You go ahead and fight battles doomed to defeat from the outset. The adults will fight battles that can and will be won.

So exactly what battles are being fought and won by the GOP now? The GOP establishment always looks for ways to postpone a fight. They have failed to use the leverage they have in controlling the House. They should have won the Senate the last time.

So what is the GOP doing now to ensure defeat in the 2014 midterms? Amnesty of course. They have made it an urgent item that will split the GOP and reduce turnout in 2014. I will not vote in 2014 for any Rep if any kind of amnesty is passed.

The reality is that the Reps have abandoned the American worker and is pushing the doubling of guest workers and increasing immigration to over 33 million during the next decade, which is more than double what it was in the previous decade, which happened to be the highest in our history. The GOP Establishment is leading the GOP over the cliff.

Impeachment could only be possibly won if conservatives (not necessarily Republicans) win control of the House and Senate. Right now the GOP owns the House but it’s run by liberals, and the Dems will never go along with impeachment in the Senate, especially when it comes down to what amounts to policy differences.

The question you should ask, "Has Obama committed impeachable offenses?" Do you think he has? If so, then you should be pressuring your representative to do his duty and uphold the oath he swore to the Constitution.

Curse me all you want. I know what’s possible, and I can extrapolate based on prior events the outcome of such a stand. As I said before, many FReepers won’t like his answer, but it is a good one.

It is the answer of a defeatist. Time is not on our side. The rapidly changing demographics will make the Dems the permanent majority party. We may have already reached a tipping point judging by the 2012 election results. We have entered the era of tribal politics.

61 posted on 09/01/2013 3:40:11 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
So exactly what battles are being fought and won by the GOP now? The GOP establishment always looks for ways to postpone a fight. They have failed to use the leverage they have in controlling the House. They should have won the Senate the last time.

Yet these are the guys you want to take up this fight? They haven't even formed a coherent, unified message. Reality isn't defeatism, it's just reality. We're not running a small-but-dedicated force here--a lightning raid against the enemy won't accomplish anything but utter defeat.

The question you should ask, "Has Obama committed impeachable offenses?" Do you think he has?

I believe he has, yes. However, believing and proving beyond a shadow of a doubt for a lot of scared politicians to vote against him and bring on all kinds of hell from the media is a whole other thing. Again, reality intrudes on FR fantasy.

Time is not on our side. The rapidly changing demographics will make the Dems the permanent majority party.

If this is true then the war is already lost, so we'd better head for the hills. And you say I'm a defeatist?

62 posted on 09/01/2013 3:56:59 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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