[nathanbedford]

My argument is not with the climbdown but with the breathtaking incompetence that pushed Obama first up the pole and then down again. I quite agree that to strike Syria was not just ill-conceived but undoubtedly counterproductive and certainly dangerous with 1 billion Muslims, 1 billion Chinese and and a lot of Russians lining up against us.

A larger view, which I think you probably share, is that Obama's foreign policy has been a muddle for the last five years which has been extremely dangerous but because he is superficially nonconfrontational it has not appeared to be so. Where he should have been aggressive, with Iran when the people were on the streets and just about any other time to stop them getting the bomb, he has been pusillanimous.

I have a vanity going back some years arguing that it is a mistake to conceive of Obama as another Jimmy Carter. Obama is a radical ideologue who sees foreign policy myopically through that filter. History shows that leftists from Trotsky to Pol Pot have been bloodthirsty in the extreme when it comes to advancing or protecting their ideological agenda.

That is why there does not seem to be any identifiable connection between Obama's foreign policy and America's national interests-Obamas interests are ideological.

[Errant]

Obamas interests are ideological

Or perhaps that of the puppet masters.

[RKBA Democrat]

“A larger view, which I think you probably share, is that Obama’s foreign policy has been a muddle for the last five years..”

I would agree that our foreign policy has been a muddle since January of 1989.

“...which has been extremely dangerous but because he is superficially nonconfrontational it has not appeared to be so. Where he should have been aggressive, with Iran when the people were on the streets and just about any other time to stop them getting the bomb, he has been pusillanimous.”

I’m no fan of our involvement in the middle east at all. We should have left years ago and let the shia and sunni kill each other off as they’ve been doing for the last 1,000 years. We have nothing to win there and plenty of American lives and treasure to lose. At best, our long term involvement will keep Israel going. But at what point does Israel have to more or less stand on it’s own? The biggest threat to Israel in the long term is not it’s neighbors, rather the threat is it’s own internal demographics. Jews are slowly becoming a minority in Israel. We can’t resolve that problem for Israel unless, of course, we’re going to make it our policy to send Americans there to live to help stave off Israel’s demographic suicide. I just see the whole area as a major cluster that a wise nation should avoid. And more to the point, we simply can’t afford it anymore.

To paraphrase Geo. Washington: honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.

“Obama is a radical ideologue who sees foreign policy myopically through that filter.”

Of course he is. It’s unfortunate that there is no counterweight within Congress. But as I’ve pointed out countless times on this website, what we have is a one party system mimicking a two party system. The rhetoric differs somewhat, but the policies don’t. Until that dynamic changes, if it ever does, then we will be doomed to endure successive kakistocracies until the American experiment sees it’s official, and quite final, end.

[campaignPete R-CT]

yet a victory for the American people. If regular folks out in flyover country had not SPOKEN UP, they were ready to go through with this.

[Yosemitest]

BoneHead is too gutless to get us out of this mess, and the quicker we throw him overboard, the better.
The only was out of this is through a purging of the gutless.
The Tea Party has the right answers, and so does Mark Levin.
But to dream or fool ourselves to think that we can get rid of these Fabian Fascists that have taken over our country by"any means necessary" and who have NO RESPECT for rules or the law, without a blood letting is naive.
When our government and especially our Department of Justice has been filled with criminals and Muslim Extremists, how do you possibly expect to get justice without a civil war?

You stated earlier:

" The question for conservatives is how to use this situation for domestic political advantage.
We have an objective to prevent any kind of immigration bill being passed by the House and sent to conference committee
where conservatives will be sabotaged and outvoted by Rinos and Democrats when the bill is returned.
The result will be amnesty
and it is therefore vital that no bill at all be passed by the House.
This is Boehner's chance to wiggle out of his dilemma
and use the breathtaking mismanagement of the president to consume Congress
and prevent the house from taking up immigration.
That, of course, assumes
that Boehner is smart enough
to take that way out
instead of rupturing the party by passing amnesty,
as seems to be his plan. "

BoneHead isn't going to fight this.
He's too weak, and too worn out.
He's got to be replaced with a more powerful, and less compassionate leader.
We need a leader that will go after the throats of these Communists that call themselves Democrats.
We need one vindictive leader that will get the economy rolling, jail the Democrats with all their corruption, and nuke the first country that even thinks to terrorize us.

We need a real leader.

[okie01]

I have a vanity going back some years arguing that it is a mistake to conceive of Obama as another Jimmy Carter. Obama is a radical ideologue who sees foreign policy myopically through that filter. History shows that leftists from Trotsky to Pol Pot have been bloodthirsty in the extreme when it comes to advancing or protecting their ideological agenda.

Moreover, it is a mistake to view Obama's foreign policy as simply "pro-Islamist" -- as has been demonstrated in every dealing with a Muslim country.

In fact, his preferences extend somewhat more broadly. He is remarkably "pro-authoritarian". Shimmer dissolve to the Honduras crisis in June of 2009 -- when Obama and the entire American foreign policy establishment demanded that Hondurans abandon their constitution and accept usurpation by Manuel Zelaya, who was nothing more than a puppet of Hugo Chavez.

Had Barack Obama been President of the USA in 1940 he would've told Winston Churchill to take a hike and cozied up to Adolf Hitler. And that is not a hyperbolic statement...