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To: Nero Germanicus
I think I will just wait and see what happens. No one knows yet if Senator Cruz is even interested in running. I’m just fantasizing about my personal dream ticket. I like winning elections the old fashioned way: have better ideas, raise more money, get more people out to vote and stomp your opponents into the dust with the force of your popular support. In my humble opinion, winning on legal (even constitutional) technicalities is for pussies.

PALIN/CRUZ 2016!

Ah, so you admit it is a technicality. Well yes it is, and yes winning on technicalities is for Pussies. Problem is, with the media being a millstone around any Republican candidate's neck, winning the old fashion way is simply conceding an unfair advantage to Democrats.

For me this topic is no longer about winning, it's about demonstrating who was factually correct, and who was factually wrong. It is also about demonstrating the folly of following incorrect understanding of the principles involved. It's about proving Establishment types wrong.

Your position justifies Barack Obama. My position completely excludes him. Our country would not be facing the horrors coming our way had we followed the more sensible, and factually correct position on this topic.

Obama is a half Foreigner, and wholly Un-American. The founders were sensible to provide a barrier to such as he. Too bad their descendants are such fools.

865 posted on 09/12/2013 8:02:37 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

In my humble opinion, whining about the media is also for pussies. There has been an even more liberal dominated media (pre-Fox News, pre-conservative talk radio, pre-blogs, conservative news services and news aggregators) since Eisenhower was elected, twice; when Nixon was elected, twice; when Reagan was elected, twice; when George H.W. Bush was elected; and when George W. Bush was elected, twice.

As for your motivations for pursuing this issue, that is your right and prerogative. I take no issue with your motivations.

I really don’t think that Barack Obama cares about whether I justify his elections or not. He jumped through all the right hoops and achieved his goal. The other two branches of government acknowleging his legitimacy is all the justification he needs. The federal judiciary rules on his policies and initiatives and the Congress sends him bills to sign into law.

A federal judge who ruled on Obama’s eligibility put it this way and his words speak for me: “The Court observes that the President defeated seven opponents in a grueling campaign for his party’s nomination that lasted more than eighteen months and cost those opponents well over $300 million. Then the President faced a formidable opponent in the general election who received $84 million to conduct his general election campaign against the President. It would appear that ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would support any contention that the President was not eligible for the office he sought. Furthermore, Congress is apparently satisfied that the President is qualified to serve. Congress has not initiated impeachment proceedings, and, in fact, the House of Representatives, in a broad bipartisan manner has rejected the suggestion that the President is not eligible for office. See H.R. Res. 593, 111th Congress. (2009) commemorating, by a vote of 378-0 the 50th anniversary of Hawaii’s statehood and stating ‘The 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.’”—U.S. District Court Judge David O. Carter, Barnett, Keyes, et. al. v. Obama, et. al. (2009).


871 posted on 09/12/2013 10:40:24 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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