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To: arthurus

Wrong. It is Barack Obama’s birth in Honolulu and his mother’s birth in Wichita, Kansas that qualify him as a natural born citizen.
“Anyone in the world,” including Vladimir Putin woud not qualify.

Obama’s eligibility was challenged in court and numerous courts ruled him to be a natural born citizen. No action of Congress disqualified him from being eligible.

Here’s one example of a court ruling:
Rhodes v. MacDonald, U.S. District Court Judge Clay D. Land: “A spurious claim questioning the president’s constitutional legitimacy may be protected by the First Amendment, but a Court’s placement of its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.”—U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia, September 16, 2009.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19809978/RHODES-v-MacDONALD-13-ORDER-denying-3-Motion-for-TRO-granting-8-Motion-to-Dismiss-Ordered-by-Judge-Clay-D-Land-on-09162009-CGC-Entered-0

PALIN/CRUZ 2016!


822 posted on 09/11/2013 9:24:58 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

Everything about the origin of Obama is assertion only. There is no evidence to support those assertions. He has locked up all information so that it is unavailable to anyone and has put forth a patently phoney “birth certificate” in more than one version. The court rulings hinge on the fact that he was elected and the judges do not want to disturb the republic or are protecting their guy, nothing more. Judging by the expense and the fervor of the hiding of information about Obama it is those who maintain that it is as he claims who are nut and cases and Democrats.


823 posted on 09/11/2013 11:55:09 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Nero Germanicus
It is my observation that your arguments are inherently dishonest. You conflate the currently fashionable opinions of courts with being equivalent to the truth of what "natural born citizen" meant in 1787, when there is much evidence extant that this is not the case at all.

In fact, constant citation of modern opinions regarding ancient meanings is a deliberately misleading tactic. It is an admonition that people do not need to examine the facts themselves, because their intellectual superiors have done their thinking for them, and rendered their Imperial Decrees.

"Stay out of the past!" You say! "Listen to MODERN Opinions, not OLD opinions."

I see you as being deliberately deceitful in your methods of argument. You don't want to discuss the actual truth, you only want to talk about what modern people who agree with your position allege that it is. You are an obstructionist. You are someone who attempts to throw up roadblocks to thwart the efforts of people to see the past clearly.

The world is full of people who do as you are doing, and the toleration of such is one reason we are on the road to ruin.

832 posted on 09/11/2013 2:51:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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