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To: Diego1618; omniscient; BlackElk
Natural born = two citizen parents.... born where ever; "Native born = born within the territorial limits of the country to non-citizen parents or born abroad to one citizen parent; Naturalized = Citizenship by statute. Three types.....always has been!

FWIW..............I think Ted Cruz would be a magnificent President. He's a magnificent Senator....already! But.....he is not a Natural Born Citizen. So what? Neither is the clown who sits there now!

I believe a precedent has been set."

I agree with all of the above! (Though Allen West and Sarah Palin are favorites of mine as well).

I have a question that I have been attempting to get answered and I get no response. That question is: If a Canadian woman marries an American man on American soil, and they have children - are those children American because they were born here? Or are they Canadian because of their mother's Canadian citizenship?

And, FWIW, even though I still believe Cruz has questionable eligibility, I love the man and will support him 100% if he is our nominee. I agree with Diego 1618: A precedent has been set. Congress has chosen to do nothing about Obama's ineligibility, and that has opened a pandora's box

500 posted on 09/01/2013 5:19:02 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: sneakers
The answer is that that child would be born a citizen of the United States, and possibly a citizen of Canada, depending upon the respective Canadian laws regarding the matter. Under Original Intent, which did not countenance citizenship descending via the mother as the law of the time followed the state of the father as far as citizenship, there would have been no doubt that that child was a natural-born citizen. However, the presence of the Canadian claim of jurisdiction upon the child would have been regarded as a problem, imho, whether the Founders countenanced the possibility of such an occurrence or not. So, it falls into the grey area of "doubt" as so eloquently explained by Chief Justice Waite in Minor v. Happersett. Such doubt can be resolved. Whether or not renunciation of Canadian citizenship is sufficient, I couldn't say. It removes the foreign jurisdictional claim, that much is true.
502 posted on 09/01/2013 5:41:08 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: sneakers
That question is: If a Canadian woman marries an American man on American soil, and they have children - are those children American because they were born here? Or are they Canadian because of their mother's Canadian citizenship?

The child is a Canadian citizen if, but only if, the government of Canada chooses to view the child as a Canadian citizen per Canadian laws.

The child is an American citizen if, but only if, the government of the United States chooses to view the child as an American citizen per American laws.

The American government and the American people have no control over the laws of Canada or the choices of the Canadian government. Since the American people and the American government should retain exclusive control over our presidential selection process, we cannot permit Canadian government choices or Canadian government laws affect, influence or manipulate our presidential selection process. So, unless we wish to grant to Canada the power to control our presidential selection process, we need to treat the Canadian citizenship issues as irrelevant to our process and irrelevant to a candidate's eligibility under American laws.

503 posted on 09/01/2013 5:41:32 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: sneakers
I have a question that I have been attempting to get answered and I get no response. That question is: If a Canadian woman marries an American man on American soil, and they have children - are those children American because they were born here? Or are they Canadian because of their mother's Canadian citizenship?

The correct answer is...."Yes! They are American citizens but not Natural Born citizens because only one parent was a U.S. citizen. If the lady had renounced her Canadian citizenship and became "Naturalized" prior to the birth.....then the children would be considered "Natural Born".

If the lady kept her Canadian citizenship instead of becoming a naturalized U.S. citizen then the children would be considered "Native Born" citizens and not be eligible to serve as "Commander in Chief". They could run for office....being U.S. citizens....and become Governors, Congressmen, Senators....and even Supreme Court Justices. But according to the Constitution....they would never be given the authority to command the military. This is reserved for "Natural Born" only (present moron excepted).

517 posted on 09/01/2013 7:44:00 AM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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