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To: Jim Robinson

“So the one remaining question is whether Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth. That’s an easy one. The Nationality Act of 1940 outlines which children become “nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.” In addition to those who are born in the United States or born outside the country to parents who were both citizens — or, interestingly, found in the United States without parents and no proof of birth elsewhere — citizenship goes to babies born to one American parent who has spent a certain number of years here.”

I thought that, under the Constitution, Congress could establish who is a naturalized citizen, but that “natural born citizen” was a Constitutional determination. If a parent is a citizen at the time of the child’s birth, how can Congress limit “natural born citizens” to children whose parent(s) have lived here for x many years? It has power in regard to naturalized citizens, not in regard to natural born citizens. Isn’t requiring residency by a citizen parent for x years an additional requirement for the child to be a natural born citizen and, thus, beyond Congress’ power?

In any case, I think Cruz is a natural born citizen.


299 posted on 08/31/2013 12:13:31 AM PDT by buridan
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To: buridan; P-Marlowe; SoConPubbie; Jim Robinson

And just how would you propose enforcing your idea that Congress does not have the authority by statute to specify how long a citizen parent needs to have resided in the U.S. and how old they needed to be, to legally produce an NBC child that was born beyond our border?

Your thoughts about it are interesting to contemplate but are not in and of themselves either proven to be Constitutionally or statutorally legal.

Such matters would somehow have to be adjudicated and agreed upon to be followed by all relevant parties to the NBC issue, and they are not.

Sigh.

I wonder when, if ever, people are going to realize that their thoughts, reasonings, beliefs etc are NOT settled law.

So when they think they have “nailed” others who disagree with them on something, and get combative, superior, demanding, insulting and just plain HUFFY about the differences, that they are blowing smoke in the wind.

There is no there, there.

And when they do this on the internet, and on this website here, somehow they believe they have established something authoritative, when they have not because that is not how something authoritative is established.

I appreciate those who believe as CRUZ does about legal authority for NBC. They try to cite statutes, because the Constitution by itself does not give definition to NBC. But when they are attacked by others as being “unConstitutional”, dear Lord, give them strength to persist, because not the Constitution by itself nor the Courts have made a candidate ineligible who has been deemed eligible by our system, otherwise, on the NBC definition grounds.

And I can’t remember which Article of the Constitution does this, but the Constitution itself gives Congress the authority to define citizenship by statute.

It has been posted here several times, though.

So now you’re trying to say that the statutes go too far in setting age and residency requirements for a one parent who can produce an NBC child born outside the U.S. and that makes the statutes unConstitutional.

The point is, you have no way to establish that.

None. It hasn’t been adjudicated and agreed to by relevant parties to the matter.

Therefore, it remains merely something you came up with and wrote on this internet website.


306 posted on 08/31/2013 5:02:17 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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