Posted on 08/30/2013 12:02:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Amen!
Actually there was a third: by marriage.
Didn't work for my mother, a war bride from The Big Show. When my dad was posted overseas (U.S. military) she had to stay in the States and file papers for citizenship, because if she'd followed him prematurely to his foreign posting, she'd have had difficulty reentering the U.S. later on, since she was still a foreign national.
It wasn’t that way until the Cable Act in 1922 when it became possible to have 2 citizen households.
Ayn Rand was more libertarian than conservative. I suspect this is why she's not more popular in conservative circles. Having Grown up in Amoral Socialist Russia, it is not surprising that she hadn't been taught better behavior when she was young.
Still, her mind was very sharp and her novels have come very close to accurately predicting the world in which we are living.
“Ayn Rand was more libertarian than conservative. I suspect this is why she’s not more popular in conservative circles.”
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She also had low regard for religion, and that too alienates many conservatives.
Her solutions were often shallow and lacking perspective.
If any of you REALLY want to know what you are talking about when it comes to NBC, you MUST read this comprehensive and definative essay on the subject. It is very long, that’s why it’s “comprehensive”.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2840767/posts
I can’t read 800 posts to see if this was already addressed or not. Also it has been posted on previous occasions and you may have seen it. I implore you to take the time to actually read the whole thing. It’s dry at times and harder for non-lawyers like me, but it is the best and I would say indisputable proof of what a natural born Citizen is.
He covers EVERYTHING! You could not read and understand this essay without knowing exactly what a natural born Citizen is and ALWAYS was, WITHOUT A DOUBT. Original intent, case law, natural law, common law, British law, constitution, amendments, framers, founders (Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, James Madison, David Ramsay, George Mason), historians, dictionaries, definitions & meanings, law books, treatises and cases, Vattel validated, legal principles of the Supreme Court, and on & on.
I thought I knew alot about this issue, but I was blown away by the depth to which (screen name, sourcery) has gone to prove the meaning and intended and actual constitutional meaning of natural born Citizen (and citizens of all stripes for that matter).
You know what wasn't in either the dissent or the majority? Any reference to the case of James McClure, A case of Far greater significance, and with far less assailable authorities than Thomas F Bayard. (John Armstrong, James Madison, and James Monroe.)
Odd that.
(John Armstrong, James Madison, and James Monroe.)
When was James McClure issued a US passport by the American Minister in London, “confessing him to be a native citizen of the United States”?
Run, Ted, run! You got my support 100%. And you will have the vast majority of grassroots behind you!
Damn the well-meaning, but short-sighted, naysaying torpedo launchers! Full steam ahead!
I would presume it was in 1807, but it could have been earlier (or later) than that. "The Horizon" was in England as early as 1801.
Note the Barely legible "McClure" as Co-Owner under "Mackler".
What you need to understand was Britain and France were at war during this time period and that there was rampant forgery of documents going on, especially as regards British Subjects attempting to pass themselves off as American citizens.
And really there are so many examples of this that I could go on and on about them.
Suffice it to say, Diplomatic Staff in other countries were very leery of accepting any documents from London, so it is no Surprise that John Armstrong was suspicious of James McClure's claimed citizenship. McClure was known to be shipping material for British Merchants, a big no-no at this point in time. I believe at one point American Diplomatic staff was ORDERED to clamp down on people claiming American citizenship and who were not.
Armstrong simply invoked the desired scrutiny of James McClure's citizenship and decided he wasn't a citizen because his father didn't naturalize until AFTER he was born. There was no need for such scrutiny in London because no French man was going to pass himself off as either a Brit or an American, so they had no need to worry about what citizenship people claimed while in London, but in France however, it was a real problem.
The point remains, once the facts were known, Armstrong asserted McClure's citizenship was in question because of his father's naturalization occurring AFTER he was born, and Madison was informed of the situation and did not countermand Armstrong's decision.
And let me assure you on one particular point. James Madison knew very well who was James McClure. It was no mistake or oversight on Madison's part to leave him there in French Custody. I would like to tell you more, but I don't want to spill the beans on this story just yet. I will tell you this. There is a LOT more to this story than meets the eye.
By the way, McClure didn't come back to the United States.
My understanding is that in order to be an NBC like Obama you have to have a forged birth certificate. Ted is lacking in that most important element.
Never underestimate birther-mania. Just when you think you've heard it all, well, you learn that they're really just getting warmed up.
The only difference is that Obama has a real forged birth certificate that he(obama) posted not Orly.
“There is a LOT more to this story than meets the eye.”
Like McClure and his cohort - US consular Aaron Vale?
Was it a coincidence that McClure was arrested by the French in the city of Orleans?
And what about Alexander and those charges made against him in 1810?
Who would have thought that Florida real estate was so valuable back then?
BTW, Isn’t John Alexander credited with losing Washington to the British in the War of 1812?
While you're working on the Obama case, I'll handle the Cruz case. I'll be fair and balanced.
Ted Cruz - 2016
Was it a coincidence that McClure was arrested by the French in the city of Orleans?
I very much doubt it. As one Fire Marshall I used to know put it, "The only buildings that burn, are those that need to."
And what about Alexander and those charges made against him in 1810?
Who would have thought that Florida real estate was so valuable back then?
BTW, Isnt John Alexander credited with losing Washington to the British in the War of 1812?
Now you have me interested in YOUR sources of information. I think you know EXACTLY why Madison wanted McClure locked up.
I'm interested in whatever you've found. Please send me links by Freepmail.
No need for that..We just need to indict the forgers. One grand jury should do it. They will cough up all the details then you can decide. This is pretty easy now that we know the BC is a fraud. But, we have nobody with courage left in the Congress.
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