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Verify chemical weapons use before unleashing the dogs of war
The Daily Caller ^ | 8-29-2013 | Kenneth Timmerman

Posted on 08/30/2013 5:39:00 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

The Obama administration has selectively used intelligence to justify military strikes on Syria, former military officers with access to the original intelligence reports say, in a manner that goes far beyond what critics charged the Bush administration of doing in the run-up to the 2003 Iraq war.

According to these officers, who served in top positions in the United States, Britain, France, Israel, and Jordan, a Syrian military communication intercepted by Israel’s famed Unit 8200 electronic intelligence outfit has been doctored so that it leads a reader to just the opposite conclusion reached by the original report.

The doctored report was leaked to a private Internet-based newsletter that boasts of close ties to the Israeli intelligence community, and led to news reports that the United States now had firm evidence showing that the Syrian government had ordered the chemical weapons attack on August 21 against a rebel-controlled suburb of Damascus.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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One of the many good reasons he has no support for what he is doing.
1 posted on 08/30/2013 5:39:00 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather

See:

http://thehotgates480bc.blogspot.com/2013/08/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-gas-un.html

We have a tyrant and a monster in the White House.


2 posted on 08/30/2013 5:41:58 AM PDT by ZULU (Barack Hussein Obama is the Prince of Misrule)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

This is the “ready, fire, aim” process that comes out of leading from behind.


3 posted on 08/30/2013 5:42:25 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: sheikdetailfeather
No ... this is the new talking point to get zero's faggot ass out of a good f****** .. (not that he wouldn't LIKE it ... )

Let's just say .. there wasn't a chemical attack after all ... you can take back your brave talk ... and follow it with .. " And you better not TRY it, neither ... "

4 posted on 08/30/2013 5:45:03 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: tbpiper

Not just verify they were used....verify whom used them and at whose direction. If these weapons were used by a low level commander without approval from their national command authority, this is not a reason to go to war here, for us. If the Arab League wants to take up that cause, let them.


5 posted on 08/30/2013 5:46:30 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Incredible. If the tapes were doctored to change the meaning 180* in order to take America to war, I think that would be impeachable.


6 posted on 08/30/2013 5:47:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

doctored by the “rebel freedom fighters” who are really the most horrible demons imaginable


7 posted on 08/30/2013 5:49:36 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Mouton

I’m leaning toward it being an AQ hit, to draw in an American response on their side. Not the first time Muslims have done this sort of atrocity against their own civilians to garner world sympathy.


8 posted on 08/30/2013 5:50:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

http://shoebat.com/2013/08/27/evidence-syrian-rebels-used-chemical-weapons-not-assad/

Evidence: Syrian Rebels used Chemical Weapons (not Assad)

By Shoebat Foundation on August 27, 2013 in Blog, General

By Walid Shoebat and Ben Barrack

(excerpt)

Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.

Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.

But she said her panel had not yet seen any evidence of Syrian government forces using chemical weapons, according to the BBC, but she added that more investigation was needed. {emphasis ours}


9 posted on 08/30/2013 5:57:04 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather
"Dogs of war?" With Obama, it's more like kittens of Stop That! I say let them kill eachother... More more American blood for people who would slit our throats in our sleep.  photo STAB_zpsef8f0e16.jpg
10 posted on 08/30/2013 5:59:04 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: tbpiper
I agree. Obama should not lead us into any kind of military action because he has proven he doesn't know what he is doing. Just look at Iraq and Afghanistan, our soldiers are being wounded and killed over there for no specific goal. The same thing would happen anywhere even if it were for a noble cause.
11 posted on 08/30/2013 6:00:22 AM PDT by shatcher (Judges 17:6b Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
""Take up the White Man's burden
The savage wars of peace
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch Sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hope to nought."

- Rudyard Kipling
12 posted on 08/30/2013 6:01:33 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Travis McGee

Ftom the article:

However, the original communication intercepted by Unit 8200 between a major in command of the rocket troops assigned to the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division, and the general staff, shows just the opposite.

The general staff officer asked the major if he was responsible for the chemical weapons attack. From the tone of the conversation, it was clear that “the Syrian general staff were out of their minds with panic that an unauthorized strike had been launched by the 155th Brigade in express defiance of their instructions,” the former officers say.

According to the transcript of the original Unit 8200 report, the major “hotly denied firing any of his missiles” and invited the general staff to come and verify that all his weapons were present.

The report contains a note at the end that the major was interrogated by Syrian intelligence for three days, then returned to command of his unit. “All of his weapons were accounted for,” the report stated.
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Bastich still trying to blame Israel for WWIII! Incredible.


13 posted on 08/30/2013 6:04:02 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
It doesn't help when his erstwhile opponents are chomping at the bit to start yet another Middle East intervention.

Weekly Standard Publisher Bill Kristol On Syria And Obama’s Mishandling Of It

HH: At an incredibly perilous time in national security matters, I’m joined by Bill Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard. Bill, I actually don’t know where you are on this, because you haven’t written about it. And I spent a half hour with Bret Stephens last hour talking about this, but where you do, how do you assess where we find ourselves on the eve of Labor Day Weekend?

BK: I just wrote about it, and it’ll be up on our website at Midnight, an editorial for the next issue. But I’m pretty close to where Bret Stephens is, I think. I am, I have been for two years strongly for intervening in Syria and for removing Assad, and I think the case for that is much stronger after his using chemical weapons, obviously. There’s a strategic case for it. He’s Iran’s top ally. There’s a moral case that there are, a very, very strong case. Having said that, the President has handled this so, in such an appalling way in the last week, that I don’t blame a lot of people who say you know, will this, will Obama do it in such a half-hearted and indecisive way that it could almost make things worse than doing nothing. I still think doing something is better than doing nothing, and I think people like us should urge him to do the right something, and a big something, and a decisive something. But I am, I’ve really never quite seen an American president, I don’t think, behave so badly in a foreign policy crisis. Maybe I’m exaggerating now, but this is pretty close to the worst I’ve seen.

HH: No, I agree with you. In fact, I suggested to Bret last hour that he is our Stanley Baldwin in his approach to foreign affairs. He’s just completely feckless and doesn’t care.

BK: Apparently not. And to let it, I mean, there’s so many, well, you know, one doesn’t even know where to begin, I guess, and I’m sure that’s how people felt in Britain in the late 30s. And of course, the worse you let it go, the longer you let it go, whether it’s two years in the case of the Syrian crisis, or even a week in the case of the last week, the options get worse, you know? And then of course, if you act, you have less support than you had if you had acted a week ago. Or if he had said right away you know what, I think I’m, I strongly believe we’re going to have to act, I’m calling Congress, I’m asking Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader Reid to call Congress back next week, because I want Congressional support. We all should, both for Constitutional reasons, but for pragmatic reasons. I want to show, have a united country here. I think that would have been fine. So I’m not, you know, I’m not, I’m somewhat ambivalent on the Congressional authority issue, or the need to go to Congress, but the wisdom of going to Congress, there is some. He’s not doing that. So Congress, just out of a kind of institutional, for institutional reasons, is now getting more and more hostile. He’s not making the case, so the American public is utterly bewildered. He’s done nothing, so far as I can tell, to help our allies abroad who wanted action and who are now getting buffeted by public opinion in their own countries and backing off. The degree of fecklessness is really extraordinary. And as I say, the situation then gets harder after Obama’s been feckless. I still think people like me have an obligation to say we should do the right thing, and we should urge the President to do the right thing. We shouldn’t give up on him, so to speak. He’s going to be president for another three and a half years.


In the presence of such feckless opposition, not wonder he feels as if he can get away with anything.
14 posted on 08/30/2013 6:07:51 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Travis McGee

Iraq claims foiling al-Qaeda nerve-gas plot [JUNE 2, 2013]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/06/20136117362322130.html

Iraq’s defence ministry has said that it has intercepted an al-Qaeda cell working to produce poisonous gas for attacks within the country as well as in Europe and North America.

The group of five men built two facilities in Baghdad to produce sarin and mustard gas, using instructions from another al-Qaeda group, spokesman Mohammed al-Askari said on Saturday.

[snip]

The Islamic State of Iraq, an al-Qaeda’s backed group, is still active in the country, launching regular attacks on government and civilian targets.

So far, the group has largely refrained from waging violence outside Iraq, but earlier this year it publicly said it was linked to Syria’s Jabhat al-Nusra, a rebel group fighting the Assad regime.

Other sources for above info BBC here and LWJ here


15 posted on 08/30/2013 6:11:07 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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The video didn't work, so now they doctor Israeli intel to start WW!!!? Somebody better DO something...and soon.


16 posted on 08/30/2013 6:14:11 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: MestaMachine
The report contains a note at the end that the major was interrogated by Syrian intelligence for three days,

And I bet that involved a nice hot cup of tea, a comfy chair and being poke with soft cushions.

17 posted on 08/30/2013 6:21:12 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: Travis McGee

Toxic Catch: Syria rebels’ chemical lab uncovered near Damascus -7-14-13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXezs1YY01I


18 posted on 08/30/2013 6:23:57 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Mouton
Not just verify they were used....verify whom used them and at whose direction

And just how it matters to America's security.

19 posted on 08/30/2013 10:32:26 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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And just how it matters to America’s security.

If they could make that case, they would have so the answer is they cannot.


20 posted on 08/30/2013 10:34:49 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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