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Britain and France are pushing this as hard as they can. - What is mildly perplexing is john mccain’s hysterical insistence that we attack. Does he owe someone something he MUST repay?

43 posted on 08/27/2013 12:43:52 PM PDT by LucyT (In politics, "Lack of Money" speaks louder than words. Stop donating to RINOs.)
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To: LucyT; MestaMachine

McCain is hell-bent on having this war. Obama is hell-bent on having the Muslim Bros. take over the mid-east and have the ‘Bros’ eliminate Israel, his mortal enemy.

Assad is no prize,but neither is the Muslim Brotherhood.

Who to believe?

Sad to say, I have a bit more faith in Putin now than Obama.

Pray for our Jewish friends........and our blessed USA.


44 posted on 08/27/2013 1:14:45 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: LucyT

Yeah it’s called his involvement in Benghazi. Wag the McCain.


48 posted on 08/27/2013 1:49:08 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: LucyT

Yeah it’s called his involvement in Benghazi. Wag the McCain.


50 posted on 08/27/2013 1:58:54 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: LucyT

Currency and natural resources.

FNC is tied to Saudis. Saudis are concerned about US energy independence. McCain is tight with the Saudis.

US is protecting the oil exchange currency ... US dollars vs. gold or petro dollars (which would sink the USD).

Next are the oil/pipeline interests; US/Euro/etc. vs. Russia/Iran/Iraq/Syria ... China.

Then you have the NWO and Banks ...

Get a grasp on some of this and FNC becomes Kabuki theater.

(JMO)

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/saudis-offer-russia-opec-membership-terror-immunity-for-olympics/

Saudis Offer Russia OPEC Membership, Terror Immunity for Olympics

August 27, 2013 By Daniel Greenfield

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23849587

Syria crisis: Where key countries stand

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-the-saudi-connection-the-prince-with-close-ties-to-washington-at-the-heart-of-the-push-for-war-8785049.html

It was Prince Bandar’s intelligence agency that first alerted Western allies to the alleged use of sarin gas by the Syrian regime in February.

While a trip earlier this month to the Kremlin to try to cajole President Vladimir Putin into withdrawing his support for President Assad reportedly failed, Prince Bandar automatically has greater leverage in Western capitals, not least because of friendships forged during his time in Washington. His most recent travels, rarely advertised, have taken him to both London and Paris for discussions with senior officials.

As ambassador, Prince Bandar left an imprint that still has not quite faded. His voice was one of the loudest urging the United States to invade Iraq in 2003. In the 1980s, Prince Bandar became mired in the Iran-Contra scandal in Nicaragua.

Months of applying pressure on the White House and Congress over Syria have slowly born fruit. The CIA is believed to have been working with Prince Bandar directly since last year in training rebels at base in Jordan close to the Syrian border.

The Saudis are “indispensable partners on Syria” and have considerable influence on American thinking, a senior US official told The Wall Street Journal yesterday. He added: “No one wants to do anything alone”.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323423804579024452583045962.html

The Saudi ambassador, Mr. Jubeir, has long been courting members of Congress who could pressure the administration to get more involved in Syria. He found early support from Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.

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Mr. Petraeus in mid-2012 won White House approval to provide intelligence and limited training to Syrian rebels at the base, including in the use of arms provided by others. Saudi and Jordanian agents began vetting the fighters to be trained, said Arab diplomats and a former U.S. military official.

Prince Bandar has largely stayed out of Washington but held meetings with U.S. officials in the region. One was in September 2012. Sens. McCain and Graham, who were in Istanbul, met him in an opulent hotel suite on the banks of the Bosporus.

Mr. McCain said he made the case to Prince Bandar that the rebels weren’t getting the kinds of weapons they needed, and the prince, in turn, described the kingdom’s plans. The senator said that in succeeding months he saw “a dramatic increase in Saudi involvement, hands-on, by Bandar.”

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That winter, the Saudis also started trying to convince Western governments that Mr. Assad had crossed what President Barack Obama a year ago called a “red line”: the use of chemical weapons. Arab diplomats say Saudi agents flew an injured Syrian to Britain, where tests showed sarin gas exposure. Prince Bandar’s spy service, which concluded in February that Mr. Assad was using chemical weapons, relayed evidence to the U.S., which reached a similar conclusion four months later. The Assad regime denies using such weapons.

After Mr. Petraeus’s November resignation over an affair, his job was handled by his deputy, Michael Morell, who privately voiced skepticism the agency could make sure any arms supplied by the U.S. wouldn’t end up with hard-line Islamists, said congressional officials.

Ultimately, the new CIA chief was John Brennan, whose closest Saudi confidant when he was White House counterterrorism adviser was also focused on the risk of inadvertently strengthening al Qaeda. Since moving to the CIA, Mr. Brennan has been in periodic contact by phone with Prince Bandar, officials said.

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/30/saudi-prince-worried-that-us-shale-boom-could-cripple-opec-economy/

Top Saudi investor says US energy boom could doom kingdom’s economy

By Perry Chiaramonte
Published July 30, 2013

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http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/01/are-the-middle-east-wars-really-about-forcing-the-world-into-dollars-and-private-central-banking.html

Are The Middle East Wars Really About Forcing the World Into Dollars and Private Central Banking?

Posted on January 13, 2012

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http://ftmdaily.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrodollar-system-part-4/

Conclusion

In summary, evidence suggests that the U.S. planned to invade Afghanistan even before the tragic events of 9/11. While the reasons are somewhat speculative, the weight of the evidence points to the Taliban’s obstruction in allowing Western oil companies to build a Trans-Afghanistan pipeline. Eleven years later, the U.S. military remains in Afghanistan while the Trans-Afghanistan pipeline is being constructed with completion plans set for 2017. Iran’s competing pipeline project will be completed by the end of 2014 and is catching the attention of China, Russia, India, and others. The U.S. cannot allow renegade regimes, like Iran, to dictate the flow of natural resources in this important region. Therefore, the U.S. government has inflicted punitive economic and political measures upon Iran in an effort to bring it into submission.

The Iraq and Afghanistan wars were both “resource wars” sold to the American public under false pretenses. America’s empire of 700+ military bases in 130+ nations serves as a global oil protection service, not a national military seeking to protect American citizens. Instead of protecting our nation’s borders, the U.S. military is used by the Washington elites to protect the petrodollar system. The foundations of the American empire are now crumbling as emerging nations are no longer willing to spend their lives and their new found wealth propping up the U.S. consumer. Nor do they have any desire to tolerate the belligerence of the U.S. war machine.

Like all failing empires, America will fall under its own weight as more nimble economies arise in its wake. America’s attempts at regional dominance of Central Asia will lead to further friction with Russia and/or China. This friction will provide the spark for yet another war.

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-geopolitics-of-gas-and-the-syrian-crisis-syrian-opposition-armed-to-thwart-construction-of-iran-iraq-syria-gas-pipeline/5337452

A Muslim Brotherhood regime in Jordan and in Syria, supported by Qatar, would abruptly change the entire geopolitical world gas market – decidedly in favor of Qatar and to the detriment of Russia, Syria, Iran and Iraq. It would also be a crushing blow to China. (5)


52 posted on 08/27/2013 3:44:52 PM PDT by maggief
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