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To: Rummyfan

“Sounds like Michelle Obama’s thesis at Princeton!”
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As Christopher Hitchens wrote,
“I direct your attention to Mrs. Obama’s 1985 thesis at Princeton University. Its title (rather limited in scope, given the author and the campus) is “Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community.” To describe it as hard to read would be a mistake; the thesis cannot be “read” at all, in the strict sense of the verb. This is because it wasn’t written in any known language.”

I recall a line in one of Erskine Caldwell’s books, something like, “Possession of a hammer don’t make of a man a carpenter.” Likewise possession of a degree does not make a person educated. The degree used to be awarded to signify the attainment of an education but now there seems to be little or no connection between the two. If we could return to the old K-12 system people would finish high school with far more education than is now represented by a bachelor degree. Obviously a REAL education is far from being the goal of the modern system.


29 posted on 08/26/2013 7:52:42 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer
If we could return to the old K-12 system...
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If we returned to the old K-12 system, in a few short decades we would be back to where we are today.

The old system was, and continues to be today, a compulsory-use, single-payer, and socialist-entitlement program.It was a 19th century Progressive idea. Progressives, and later socialists and Marxists, have **ALWAYS** controlled teacher training and curriculum development. The Progs/Socialists/Marxists have always been pushing at the edges of societies moral norms.

Now, I am going to shout, jump up and down, and wave my arms in a warning alarm!

SINGLE-PAYER, SOCIALIST-ENTITLEMENT, COMPULSORY PROGRAMS CAN NOT BE FIXED! THEY MUST BE ABOLISHED!

GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS WERE **ALWAYS** A COMPULSORY-USE, SINGLE-PAYER, AND SOCIALIST-ENTITLEMENT. THEY CAN NOT BE FIXED. THEY MUST BE ABOLISHED!

All it took to give the nation Franklin D. Roosevelt with his compulsory, single-payer, and socialist programs was one to three generations of citizens schooled in compulsory, single-payer, and socialist-entitlement schools.

Our parents and grandparents gave us Lyndon B. Johnson and his socialist-entitlement and single-payer programs. They were schooled in compulsory, single-payer, and socialist-entitlement schools.

Finally, nearly every teacher in this nation ( pre-K through college and graduate school) was trained by Marxists in Marxist-run colleges and universities. Certainly few of these teachers are full-blown communists but their Marxist training does bleed through into their classrooms.

35 posted on 08/26/2013 8:04:36 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: RipSawyer
. If we could return to the old K-12 system ...
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Obamacare won't be that bad at first.

In a generation or two citizens will say, “If we could return to the old Obamacare system....”.

Obamacare, like government K-12 schooling, is compulsory-funded and will be compulsory-use because the private market in health care ( just like private schooling) will be driven to near extinction. Private health care will find it hard to compete against a government monopoly and price-fixed cartel that is giving away health care for no fee, just as government schools give their service away for tuition-free.

Do you see, now. Government schooling can't be fixed because it is a compulsory-funded, compulsory-use, single-payer, socialist-entitlement, and price-fixed monopoly cartel. It **always** has been!

40 posted on 08/26/2013 8:11:12 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: RipSawyer
I recall a line in one of Erskine Caldwell’s books, something like, “Possession of a hammer don’t make of a man a carpenter.” Likewise possession of a degree does not make a person educated. The degree used to be awarded to signify the attainment of an education but now there seems to be little or no connection between the two.

And I would add "possession of a Nobel Prize" to that list.

113 posted on 08/26/2013 12:07:32 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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