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The Ultimate Punishment
Townhall.com ^ | August 25, 2013 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 08/25/2013 5:04:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 08/25/2013 5:04:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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As time goes on and as more heinous crimes of these types are committed and go unpunished, eventually we will revert to the Wild West frontier, unfortunately, taking the law into our own hands. Maybe that is why Homeland Security is buying up so much ammo?
I am not advocating taking the law into our own hands but there will be a breaking point where the public demands protection & punishment immediately or they will become a mass of angry mobs, meting out the punsihment the system was too forgiving or soft to do. We will be in a MAD MAX scenario by then...
2 posted on 08/25/2013 5:25:39 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Kaslin

Good article and I totally agree. “An eye for an eye” would work just fine for me, just don’t delay it for an entire life time.


3 posted on 08/25/2013 5:28:08 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Kaslin

I must demur with “Chancey wasn’t born evil.”

Unfortunately we are all born evil.

Judeo-Christian theology traces this back to events soon after the creation of mankind. The bible furnishes a few concrete details, and it reads much like a pan-human soul conspiracy to embrace a lie that one could spiritually stand on one’s own apart from God. This realization isn’t just gratuitous guilt-tripping. It is a realization that we have all been saying no to the blessings of God. And saying no to blessings means that what remains is — that’s right — curses. There is no neutral spiritual zone. Doing an attitude turn-around, with the help of God, opens us up to blessings where curses had prevailed in the past.

Still, to fail to recognize the gravity of the situation is to become more lost in evil ourselves. Forget for a moment the specifics of how this might be punished by other sinners on earth — the most fundamental problem is that people act as if there is no God to be accountable to or reconciled with.


4 posted on 08/25/2013 5:28:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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As this country moves closer and closer to becoming a third world nation, we will start seeing less justice and more just-us. Then, I suspect we shall see a revival of Vigilance Committees and other vigilante groups. Once more ustice will be swift and yes, probably with a few more mistakes.
5 posted on 08/25/2013 5:37:21 AM PDT by Tupelo (There are no Republicans or Democrats in Washington. Just Millionaires protecting their turf.)
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To: Netz
The lack of justice in the inner-city (largely due to “liberal” policies) is one of the driving forces in the huge homicide rates in places like Chicago. “If they got on of ours,we'll get one of theirs.”)

Oldplayer

6 posted on 08/25/2013 5:45:06 AM PDT by oldplayer
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As for why these disgusting displays of inhumanity happened, I don’t care. I don’t want to understand these monsters, I want to eliminate them. May they be removed from the gene pool before they have a chance to infect it with their DNA.

Ah, the Van Helsing Doctrine. And I suggest everyone re-read Stoker's incomparable novel, and this time with an eye toward its true meaning, which is the struggle of humanity against evil.

7 posted on 08/25/2013 5:49:25 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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Unfortunately we are all born evil.

Yes, in the sense that we are born with no concept of good. It requires many years of constant education, most of it by example, to inculcate the qualities of good into the unmoulded clay that is an infant.

8 posted on 08/25/2013 5:51:27 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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Sorry...how does the writer know that many criminals aren’t born evil? Do you think Jeffrey Dahmer’s parents taught him how to be a cannibal and a mass murderer. The myth that somehow many people aren’t born evil has to be exposed. Yes...some people are born evil. By claiming that being a good person is all societal indoctrination, these scribblers are saying we’re all basically born with blank slates or tabula rasas. That theory has been thoroughly debunked for decades. Society can enact laws that make it tougher for some people to act out their evil impulses, but it can only do so much.


9 posted on 08/25/2013 5:52:29 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: oldplayer

This is the behavior exhibited daily in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Iran and many other nations, it should NOT be so in the once “Melting Pot” nation.

I sit in Israel, sorrounded by insane Arabs and yet, I read about “8 killed, 37 wounded over the weekend in Chicago” - every weekend?

Who is nuts?


10 posted on 08/25/2013 5:56:34 AM PDT by Netz
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Progressives will tell you the death penalty doesn’t deter crime, and that’s true. It’s also irrelevant.

While as a philosophical matter I agree with the death penalty, do we really want to put that weapon against the criminally accused into the hands of Eric Holder, Angela Corey, Mike Nifong, Eliot Spitzer, Bill Lockyer, Scott Harshbarger, and a number of other rogue prosecutors whose only concern is their conviction rate and their political viability, your innocence be damned?

I will answer that question for you - NO!!

11 posted on 08/25/2013 6:04:19 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham; HiTech RedNeck; Kaslin

Yes we are all born evil.

None of us is more than a heartbeat away from committing the most heinous crime we can imagine.

Some of the responses here, and some of the responses of my own heart, in articulating what should be done with those who act on their evil imaginations, reveal just how evil we all really are.

The difference is whether a person acts on his evil imaginations.

I have known some children born into really good Christian homes that end up committed to living evil lives, even while their siblings are committed to Christ.

Ultimately, God allows us all to make our own choices. Some people are just inclined to make the wrong ones.

And, yes, the murderers must be put to death, if for no other reason than to prevent them from doing it again.


12 posted on 08/25/2013 6:19:04 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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I have to disagree with you that we are all born evil
13 posted on 08/25/2013 6:33:22 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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...but there will be a breaking point where the public demands protection...

Assuming those in that "public" don't have the balls or do not their state's permission to protect themselves.

Don't go unarmed.

14 posted on 08/25/2013 6:48:51 AM PDT by CPOSharky ((The government way) If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.)
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...better watch what your saying. The Thought Police have already picked up your brainwaves...I can see their report:

APB for Armed Neanderthal Biped (ANB), possesses independent deterrent. Arrest immediately.

15 posted on 08/25/2013 6:57:57 AM PDT by Netz
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First, the writer is wrong about the Death Penalty as a deterrent. Study after study demonstrates that it is.

Second, all this confusion about whether some or all humans are born evil or good can be really confusing, but it shouldn't be. Some, liberals in particular, believe people are "basically good." And too many conservatives misinterpret scripture and quickly adopt a reactionary view, that "original sin" means people are born evil. But the scriptures teaches "know" both.

More to the point, we are born "knowing good and evil," and, deny it though we will, we are therefore responsible, whether we choose to acknowledge or try to escape this awesome responsibility.

When a cat tortures a mouse to death we rightly assume the cat is probably just doing his natural born thing. But when people do the same thing we consider that person a criminal or psychotic, and we rightly say they are responsible for evil. The knowledge and the perception of good and evil do not make us good or evil, only responsible for how we choose to act.

16 posted on 08/25/2013 7:06:22 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Netz

“...unfortunately, taking the law into our own hands.”

Hmmm, I see nothing unfortunate about that.


17 posted on 08/25/2013 10:11:26 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Unfortunately we are all born evil.”

No, we are born sinners—a big difference.


18 posted on 08/25/2013 10:12:20 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Westbrook
Some of the responses here, and some of the responses of my own heart, in articulating what should be done with those who act on their evil imaginations, reveal just how evil we all really are.

That's one of the worst parts of conservatism among people who pride themselves in being conservative and yet don't really have an appreciation of what the term signifies--particularly some who plume themselves on their Christianity.

19 posted on 08/25/2013 10:15:22 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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Disagree with the bible then, if you must. From the Old Testament, “God created man upright, but men have gone after many schemes.” And from the New Testament, “We sinned in Adam.”

Understanding that this is our common position is key to understanding the need for the redemption from God, not just a “nice life on earth.”


20 posted on 08/25/2013 12:02:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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