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To: Nero Germanicus

Problem with the birth notices is that neither hospital verified later in that he was born there. One of those Hawaii home birth forms could be filled out by the relatives (Madelyn or stanley Anne in 0’s case) eve tho the kid was born outside the us to (see Sun Yat Sen Hawaii doc ) and then the county upon receiving it files it. Also the papers put the birth notice in there based on that home birth doc. And there you have it.

The interview with ins doesn’t name the kid.
I recall the kids name was in a memo/handwritten draft, and looks like it was filled in later.
Thing is, o SR was a notorious “embellisher” and at the time was trying to stay in the us and not get thrown out.
0 SR probably wasn’t there for 0’s birth either.

Nordyke b.c. number has been messed with, and also there are no corroborating interviews with hospital doctors and nurses as to 0 having been born at kapiolani. There is confusion as to in which hospital- kapiolani or the other one- 0 was born.

The school record in Indonesia- if filled out by lolo- is based on what someone else told him and Lolo wasn’t there for 0’s birth. If filled out by Stanley Ann, then she was just continuing the fib started by the “home birth” filing.

We have no official lfbc or home birth doc for that matter.

Neither do we have any of the supporting docs used for his first passport application.

All the docs (birth cert, social security #, draft registration form) we have seen for this guy have been shown to be bogus.


118 posted on 08/24/2013 7:35:08 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

“Problem with the birth notices is that neither hospital verified later in that he was born there. One of those Hawaii home birth forms could be filled out by the relatives (Madelyn or stanley Anne in 0’s case) eve tho the kid was born outside the us to (see Sun Yat Sen Hawaii doc ) and then the county upon receiving it files it. Also the papers put the birth notice in there based on that home birth doc. And there you have it.”

Not according to this;

In November 2008, The Advertiser reported that the first published mention of the future president appeared in a Sunday Advertiser birth announcement that ran on Aug. 13, 1961:

“Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”

The identical announce- ment ran the following day in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

Birthers wave off those birth announcements, saying that Obama family members 48 years ago could have phoned in false information to both newspapers.

Such vital statistics, however, were not sent to the newspapers by the general public but by the Health Department, which received the information directly from hospitals, Okubo said.

Birth announcements from the public ran elsewhere in both papers and usually included information such as the newborn’s name, weight and time of birth.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2009/Jul/28/ln/hawaii907280345.html


120 posted on 08/24/2013 7:52:12 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: WildHighlander57

Birth notices don’t come from the hospital to the newspapers, they come from the Department of Health (in 1961, it was called the Health Bureau).
The section of the newspapers they were in is called “Health Bureau Statistics.”
The INS memo does name the child:
http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/07/INS-6.jpg


124 posted on 08/24/2013 10:56:27 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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