[DiogenesLamp]

If you go back and look at the very first response I gave to your "Bayard" argument, you will find that it is just as appropriate now as it was THE VERY FIRST TIME I TOLD YOU.

This is what you do Jeff. You just keep making the same ridiculous claims over and over again, and obliging the rest of us to keep knocking them down over and over and over again. I should just start writing boiler plate rebuttals of your CONSTANT fallacies and false equivalences. Perhaps I could get it so simple as to simply refer to the relevant rebuttal by number.

Not only was Bayard's grandfather, Richard Bassett, United States Senator #1 and one of the 39 Delegates who Signed the Constitution, James Bayard's FATHER was known to his peers in Congress as "HIGH PRIEST OF THE CONSTITUTION."

So the notion that the FATHER had to be a citizen is even more strongly reinforced then, isn't it?

Once more for all you silly @$$E$, If a Foreign Father cannot make a child born here into a citizen WITHIN THIS VERY COUNTRY, how will he be able to do so in a FOREIGN COUNTRY?

United States Secretary of State Thomas F Bayard.

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[Jeff Winston]

Oh... and once again, as your own source notes: Greisser’s father was basically a tourist in the US, or on a temporary trade mission. The younger Bayard’s position was that the US-born child of a German citizen WHO HAD HIS DOMICILE IN GERMANY was not a US citizen.

So it was a “no birth tourists” type position.

Not unreasonable, and not in conflict with the principle that if Greisser had been born here to a German father WITH HIS PERMANENT DOMICILE IN THE UNITED STATES, he would’ve been a natural born US citizen.