This guy... and his potential pool of workers.
Posted on 08/20/2013 5:24:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
Nonsense.
Anyone who’s ever worked in High tech can tell you H1Bs are indentured servants. Econ 101... an increase in the supply of labor, decreases the wage.
H1Bs are decreasing the pay of American grad students.
The STEM degree should be from a USA accredited institution - not some correspondence course in India. Of course that will never happen.
And American kids won’t want to go into the field because they are afraid to be undercut by both outsourcing to India and HB-1 visa holders.
This has three effects:
I was the equivalent of an H1B visa holder in Japan for 14 years.
This would solve a lot of our problems but labor unions are frantically opposed to a sensible increase in the number of these visas. And guess who pulls the Democrats’ strings.
Why do foreigners with skill need to follow the visa regulations by providing necessary documents, etc., when millions of foreigners who came without proper documentations might become US citizens by fiat?
7,000,000,000 people in the world
130,000,000 total jobs in the US
less then 5,000,000 STEM jobs in the US total
hey... let’s bring in people from overseas so we can train them and send them home while neglecting our own STEM potentials
There may be a large demand for LOW PAID highly skilled labor, particularly in STEM (science-tech-engineering-math) jobs.
http://prospect.org/article/stem-shortage-myth
“Only half of students graduating with a STEM degree are able to find STEM jobs. Beyond that, if there was an actual shortage of STEM workers, basic supply and demand would predict that the wages of STEM workers would be on the rise. Instead, wages in STEM fields have not budged in over a decade. Stagnant wages and low rates of STEM job placement strongly suggest we actually have an abundance of STEM-qualified workers.”
No, it isn't.
How CATO has been sucked into the H1B lies told by greedy employers is a complete mystery to me. The sole purpose of H1B visas is to suppress the wages of American workers and provide a ready supply of compliant foreigners; cheap corporate drones.
The level of legal immigration we have now will destroy this country. Illegal immigration is almost just a sideshow.
The way this wrote this we have very few Americans who hold degrees science, technology, engineering, and math.Just to be clear are the best and brightest not trained right here in Ameican colleges ? We have over 300 million people plus in America right now. Surely there are enough students here with degrees in science, technology, engineering, and math.I believe this is nothing more than supporters being dishonest and acting like our colleges sit empty of students in classes for science, technology, engineering, and math.And this is a direct insult to all the Americans who went to college and did as well as anybody else from countries outsise the U.S...........With birth rates in America slipping toward the low levels of continental Europe, we are increasingly reliant on immigrants to keep our population—and accordingly, our labor force, GDP, and economy—from declining.......... I imagine if there is a decline, it comes from Americans cannot get a boat load of freebies.I’d love to have a house full of kids I cannot afford to support be no prpblem in collecting welfare,food stamps and even in some cases SSDI. I’d like my kids to be given free medical care, for 18 years, free school lunches,after school snacks,the weekend take home meals that many illegals are collecting. I suppose if I wanted to have kids the gov will assume the role of being the parents 18 years and after 18 years, look for the demands for free college educations to become available to illegals. At a time when unemployment remains very high for the last 5 years, what responsible Americans can tell themselves as bad as things are,lets have children that we cannot support anyway. Yes many Americans abuse the system and take handouts rather than doing an honest days work. Why stop at 11 million plus, if we had 30 million plus we would be the envy of the world. It’s always about helping the illegals and never about helping out any Americans.Why doesn’t gov say, we will give to legal citzens of our country.. we will give special student financial aid to ensure our best and brightest can go to college and get those degrees in science, technology, engineering, and math and therefore we will not need to use lame excuses America has a shortage of educated people..
Propoganda alert. No one opposing more STEM visas were interviewed in these piece. The fact is that most Americans with STEM degrees graduating recently are either unemployed not employed in a scientific field. Corporations have a lot of money to spend on porpoganda to get government-subsidized cheap and intentured labor because they refuse to pay market rates for Americans.
Under current law foreign born STEM graduates - essentially those with Master's or Ph.D degrees in science and tech - are practically guaranteed a 5 year work visa in America.
Those who are determined to stay in the USA have little difficulty extending their stay for years longer, even if they don't receive a Green Card or Citizenship.
Unfortunately, the BEST graduates usually do leave the USA - by choice - and not because they are thrown out.
About 80% of STEM’s from western Europe, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and the oil rich Middle East, eventually return to their home country.
Why?
Because pay and standard of living are essentially the same as the USA.
Which STEM’s do stay?
The lowest ranked ones, unfortunately.
About 80% of STEM’s from India, China, Russia, and eastern Europe stay in the USA longer than 5 years.
How do they compare with home grown Americans?
Badly.
At least two studies show that foreign born STEM’s rank the same as - or below - American born STEM’s in patent applications and journal citations.
The H1-B visa is a complete fraud that allows American corporations to ignore age discrimination and race discrimination laws.
Almost all H1-B’s are under 40 years of age.
50% of American workers are OVER age 40.
There are about 850,000 H1-B’s in America.
More than 500,000 are from India.
An American corporation would be BURIED in lawsuits if it hired American born workers that way.
One last thought.
Anybody here wonder why there is a “shortage” of American born tech workers?
That's easy.
Thanks to H1-B, an “average” American kid starting college knows that his tech wages will hit a ceiling around age 30, and he knows he will be unemployable after age 40.
I just did a simple Google on “STEM unemployment rate” and that was the first article up, but there are many others:
http://www.cis.org/more-us-stem-grads-than-jobs
http://www.cjr.org/essay/it_doesnt_add_up.php?page=all
The fact that articles from the entire range of political viewpoints come to the same conclusion: we don’t need any more H1 visas for STEM workers until our own STEM graduates have employment.
Team Obama is pushing the increase big-time. What do you think motivates this?
I’ve got a better idea.....
Unlimited American work visas for anyone paid more than $150,000, plus the freedom to change jobs, at any time, if you get a better offer.
And, ZERO work visas for anyone paid less.
Interesting proposal.
Oh, I forgot to mention.....
UNLIMITED work visas for any foreigner working as a JOURNALIST.
But only if they are paid LESS than American journalists.
This guy... and his potential pool of workers.
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