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To: BuckeyeTexan

That is certainly a valid argument and your points are well taken. Here’s another way of looking at Rogers v. Bellei.

Rogers v. Bellei found both sides accepting that children born abroad to citizen parents do so through NATURALIZATION by statute.

“Mr. Justice Gray has observed that the first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment was ‘declaratory of existing rights, and affirmative of existing law,’ so far as the qualifications of being born in the United States, being NATURALIZED in the United States, and being subject to its jurisdiction are concerned.” —United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U. S., at 688. Then follows a most significant sentence: “But it [the first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment] has not touched the acquisition of citizenship by being born abroad of American parents; and has left that subject to be regulated, as it had always been, by Congress, in the exercise of the power conferred by the Constitution to establish an uniform rule of NATURALIZATION.”

In the dissent, Justices Black, Douglas and Marshall point out how any other modes of acquiring citizenship than birth on soil are forms of NATURALIZATION, constitutionally speaking.

MR. JUSTICE BLACK, with whom MR. JUSTICE DOUGLAS and MR. JUSTICE MARSHALL join, dissenting: “The Court in Wong Kim Ark thus stated a broad and comprehensive definition of NATURALIZATION. As shown in Wong Kim Ark, NATURALIZATION when used in its constitutional sense is a generic term describing and including within its meaning all those modes of acquiring American citizenship OTHER THAN BIRTH IN THIS COUNTRY. All means of obtaining American citizenship which are dependent upon a congressional enactment are forms of NATURALIZATION. This inclusive definition has been adopted in several opinions of this Court besides United States v. Wong Kim Ark, supra. Thus in Minor v. Happersett, 21 Wall. 162, 167 (1875), the Court said: “Additions might always be made to the citizenship of the United States in two ways: first, by birth, and second, by NATURALIZATION. . . . [N]ew citizens may be born or they may be created by NATURALIZATION.” And in Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U. S. 94 (1884), the Court took the position that the Fourteenth Amendment: “contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two sources only: birth and NATURALIZATION. . . . Persons not . . . subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards, except by being NATURALIZED, either individually, as by proceedings under the NATURALIZATION acts, or collectively, as by the force of a treaty by which foreign territory is acquired.” 112 U. S., at 101-102.


420 posted on 08/20/2013 6:52:34 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
Rogers v. Bellei found both sides accepting that children born abroad to citizen parents do so through NATURALIZATION by statute.

Agreed.

My personal interpretation of the law is that any citizenship granted by Congressional statute is, in and of itself, a process of naturalization.

The State Department disagrees with me (and SCOTUS, apparently). The Foreign Affairs manual states:

7 FAM 1131.6-3 Not Citizens by "Naturalization"
(CT:CON-479; 08-19-2013)

Section 101(a)(23) INA (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(23)) provides that the term "naturalization" means "the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth, by any means whatsoever." Persons who acquire U.S. citizenship at birth by birth abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents who meet the applicable statutory transmission requirements are not considered citizens by naturalization.

I'm temporarily stumped about this issue. I'll have to research it further.

Does the "power to enact an uniform rule of naturalization" granted to Congress by the Constitution give them the authority to say who does not need to be naturalized (i.e. Those born abroad to U.S. citizen parents become "citizens at birth") or does it give them the authority to say how those who are not born in the U.S. may be naturalized? (i.e. Those born outside the jurisdiction of the U.S. require either citizen parents or must complete a specific process and take an oath.)

513 posted on 08/23/2013 3:37:36 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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