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To: Louis Foxwell

some people are born with the impulse to burn things down or murder people.

If they never ACT on those impulses or some would argue dwell on thinking about doing them, then they have committed no sin.

We are ALL born with various weaknesses, it is our job to overcome those weaknesses and live the way God has commanded us to.

Glutony is a sin... if you are born with a constant desire to eat to excess, then CONTROL yourself and eat modestly, and don’t sit around dreaming about all the food you could be eating either.

Coveting is a sin... if you are born with the nagging desire to always have more than your neighbor or have what he has, then CONTROL yourself and be content with what you have, and don’t sit around dreaming of what it must be like to be _________, be happy with yourself and what you have.

I could go on and on.

No one blames anyone for being born prone to sin, since we ALL are born that way, all that differs is what we have to struggle with.

Homosexuals obviously have to struggle with being attracted to others of the same sex. Fine. They just need to CONTROL themselves and don’t spend all their time dreaming about what it would be like to be with someone of the same sex and they will not have committed a sin.

It’s that easy.


83 posted on 08/19/2013 2:27:25 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Homosexuals obviously have to struggle with being attracted to others of the same sex. Fine. They just need to CONTROL themselves and don’t spend all their time dreaming about what it would be like to be with someone of the same sex and they will not have committed a sin.

If one were to actually speak to someone who'd been under the bondage of that sin and tried every which way to turn loose, and then eventually to be delivered by Christ, you'd not be quite as casual talking about it. Self control is a gift of the Holy Spirit and it is granted along with God's purpose which is to be glorified in the creation. God allowed this "flat tire" to happen in their lives to signal that they should return to Him. Instead the feebly Christianized world usually advises them that they should make every worldly prideful religionistic effort to exert their will power. Nope, that won't work. One has to rest squarely on the love of the Lord which may actually seem to work LESS well than pride does at the start, but which will quickly grow to surpass what pride could ever do.

87 posted on 08/19/2013 2:33:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

You could go on and on and dig yourself deeper and deeper into a vain attempt to absolve yourself of sin. No one is born with the desire to burn anything down or kill anyone. These are learned attitudes.
What, precisely, do you imagine Jesus meant when he warned that to commit adultry in one’s mind is as sinful as the act of adultry?
There are hard lessons taught here. One is that we are responsible not simply for controlling our murderous intent but ridding our minds of the very thoughts that give rise to acts of sin.
There is nothing simple about ridding our lives of sin. We are wholly incompetent to the task. Christ offers us a new mind to replace the old man of sin.
No, my brother, we are not born with sin in our hearts. We are born into a world of sin that seeks our destruction from our first breath. Certainly, the very notion that homosexual desire is native to our psyche is just such a corruption.
We are not asked to overcome our desire for licentuous behavior. We are asked by God to remove it root and branch from our minds and souls.


101 posted on 08/19/2013 3:56:06 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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