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Many in U.S. Army are secret members of Anonymous; more leaks are coming
DC Clothesline ^ | 8/15/13 | Dr. Eowyn

Posted on 08/16/2013 12:28:03 PM PDT by null and void

Many in U.S. Army are secret members of Anonymous; more leaks are coming

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The group-name “Anonymous” refers to a loosely associated, decentralized network of hacktivists – political activists who hack into secured websites, then leak the information free to the public.

The group originated in 2003 on the Internet forum 4chan, representing the concept of many online and offline community users simultaneously existing as an anarchic, digitized global brain. The group became known for a series of well-publicized hacks and denial-of-service attacks on government, religious, and corporate websites, including U.S. and Israeli government agencies, the Church of Scientology, child porn sites, PayPal, Mastercard, Visa, and military contractors.

Supporters have called the group “freedom fighters” and digital Robin Hoods, but critics have described them as “a cyber lynch-mob” or “cyber terrorists”. In 2012, Time magazine called Anonymous one of the “100 most influential people” in the world.

Anonymous members (known as “Anons”) can be distinguished in public by the wearing of stylised Guy Fawkes masks. Guy Fawkes is the best-known member of the Gunpowder Plot, an attempt to blow up the British House of Lords in London in 1605.

Now a member of Anonymous, who is an active-duty captain in the U.S. Army, has given an interview to BuzzFeed, anonymously of course. He claims that there are many Anons in the U.S. military, including middle- to high-ranking NCOs (non-commissioned officers), who are profoundly alienated from the military. He promises that more leaks are forthcoming.

H/t ZeroHedge

~Eowyn

Guy Fawkes maskA Guy Fawkes mask on the dashboard is just one way this Army captain tips off other soldiers that he’s a fellow member of Anonymous.

Anonymous’ Secret Presence In The U.S. Army

Justine Sharrock interviews the anonymous U.S. Army Anon for BuzzFeed, Aug. 9, 2013.

Are there a lot of members of Anonymous in the Army?
There are more than you would think, more heavily in the techie world [of the military] — especially at Fort Huachuca [U.S. Army installation in S.E. Arizona], where all the intel people are. A lot of them wanted to get the job [there] because they want to learn secret stuff and have a better personal understanding of how the world actually works.

How do you know who is in Anonymous?
Initially we have the handshaking phase. The lingo is still relatively unknown. In conversation, you drop in jokes. If you are with someone on a mission, you’re like, “Man, there are over 9,000 reasons that this is a bad idea.” That initially establishes friendship. Once you feel comfortable with the person and they aren’t just posing as part of the culture, then you talk about what they’ve done and how much a part of it they are. It gets to the point where you are discussing individual operations.

What are the most popular operations amongst soldiers?
Anonymous is so distributed and leaderless that everyone has operations they love and hate. Operation Cartel, especially at Fort Bliss [in El Paso, Texas].Operation Dark Net was universally loved. And Operation Payback was pretty well received.

What about you?
I was involved in the Arab Spring opening up internet communications. I was a facilitator for a lot of people who have more skills than me in the cyber world. I knew people who I met through 4chan, 9Chan, and 7Chan and then a lot of AnonOps IRCs and who they needed to talk to — the organizations that would help them, and people in government would give them resources and access — and was able to convince them to talk to people in Anonymous. I got people in the right [internet relay chat] rooms at the right time.

Would the military consider you a white or black hat?
The military sees me as black hat.

Is that a fair assessment?
All hats are gray. Every white hacker I know has a night job that is very much a black-hat job.

What were the results of what you did for the Arab Spring?
From what I heard they were able to establish ways to assist the activists to have a method where they could get information out of Egypt and have certain Twitter accounts tweet that information on their behalf. But I don’t know for sure. As soon as I was like, “Hey, this is this person,” and vice versa, they did tweet confirmation to make sure that certain Twitter accounts were controlled by certain people, and then I headed out of the room so there would be no “taint” of having a fed there.

Why do Anonymous members outside the military trust you?
My credibility is incredibly suspect in the group. I admit I work for the feds, and I provide information on myself so that they are comfortable. There are people who I only know as screen names but I have put my career in their hands.

What specific actions have other soldiers taken?
There are several [soldiers] I know that probably did things, but I don’t know know that they did. I can legally say, probably under a [lie] detector, I have no proof that they did it. We keep our activities totally separate because at any point in time I can be put in the chair that I can’t lie in. You have to keep the /b/ [4chan’s “Random” board] brotherhood strong.

Does the military know about the Anonymous presence?
Pre-Manning, there were several academic papers put out trying to analyze it and school the leadership. Because the Army is a very top-down organization, they assume that [Anonymous] is too. Leadership wasn’t concerned with it until Manning happened. Then they read everything under the [lens] of what Manning did and it just scared them — scared them blind. They know we are in there and they assume that we are all going to do a Manning or a Snowden.

How have they addressed it?
Every six months you are mandated to get a Threat Awareness and Reporting Procedures Brief. It used to be very much like how to … spot the Iraqi contractor who is pacing off your base. Now it is, “Look at the person at your left and right. Are they espousing social beliefs that don’t line up with Army values? What websites do they go to at work?” With the caveat that it is OK to have political beliefs that are different. You get a heavy-handed feeling.

I have had more than a few officers come up to me and as we are trying to talk about [Anonymous] they are worried, like, “Are you CID [working undercover for the Central Investigative Division]?” Because you always worry about that.

Are the retaliations against Manning and Snowden discouraging Anonymous activity and the desire to leak information?
A lot [of Anonymous members] have been in long enough and are jaded. They are watching as the government comes down harder and harder. There is a growing sense of disdain and hatred because we are complicit in it. There are some secrets that need to be secrets but the stuff [the military] keeps secret just to protect the bottom line — you just feel like you are selling your soul every day. That is a lot of the motivation. Especially for people of the generation that believe that information should be free.

Are we going to see more leaks?
Yes. A lot [of Anonymous members] are mid- to high-rank NCOs. They are well-respected, have connections, and overly large security clearances. A lot of people who are part of the [Anonymous] culture are just dying at this point for something to come across their table that isn’t already out there. It is so easy to leak information that if you want to, you can do it.


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Who can obama really trust?
1 posted on 08/16/2013 12:28:03 PM PDT by null and void
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To: COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; opentalk; ..
CWII is coming. Choose a mask…

Hint: Sheep get sheared, slaughtered and eaten.

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

2 posted on 08/16/2013 12:28:56 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: null and void

Not smart to take an oath and then use your access to break the oath.


3 posted on 08/16/2013 12:32:39 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: null and void

What more angry homosexuals?


4 posted on 08/16/2013 12:35:43 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: mylife

“Not smart to take an oath and then use your access to break the oath.”

Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg could attest to that.


5 posted on 08/16/2013 12:38:03 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: null and void
A Guy Fawkes mask on the dashboard is just one way this Army captain tips off other soldiers that he’s a fellow member of Anonymous.

Sounds imprudent from an OpSec perspective.

6 posted on 08/16/2013 12:38:54 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: MeganC

Actually, Col. von Stauffenberg would attest that if you’re doing something important, you need to stick around until it’s complete.


7 posted on 08/16/2013 12:40:07 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: MeganC

Lots of people “could”


8 posted on 08/16/2013 12:40:29 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: DuncanWaring

yup. Either the interviewer was getting played, or the interviewee was pretending to be a whole lot more important than they were. Or both.


9 posted on 08/16/2013 12:42:28 PM PDT by wbill
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To: null and void
In '69 part of the process of joining the Army (and the other branches too,no doubt) was filling out stacks of forms/questionnaires.One that I recall had a list of a couple of hundred organizations and you were asked if you ever belonged to any of them.Groups like the Communist Party,Hands Off North Korea,Fair Treatment For Cuba,etc.

Now we have an organized sub culture of Marxist subversives in the military.Or so it's claimed.Un-bleepin-belivable.

10 posted on 08/16/2013 12:42:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: mylife
What happens if you take an oath to "Protect the Constitution against ALL enemies foreign and DOMESTIC" and find out your command structure is behaving in a contra-constitutional manner utterly indistinguishable from that of a sworn enemy?

Do you follow your oath, or your orders?

Legal precedent, Nuremberg:

"I vas yust vollowink orders" didn't save anyone from blame, trial, culpability, or hanging.

11 posted on 08/16/2013 12:43:01 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: DuncanWaring
(continued)... "Yeah! I've got secrets. big BIG secrets. But I can't tell you, because, well, they're secret. But trust me, they're big!"

This guy was stroking his own ego.

12 posted on 08/16/2013 12:44:19 PM PDT by wbill
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To: null and void

You know the answer.


13 posted on 08/16/2013 12:45:15 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: null and void
This crap needs to stop or we should BRING BACK THE FIRING SQUAD and
put any traitors to death! Just dammit.
14 posted on 08/16/2013 12:45:15 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: DuncanWaring

I think Mr. Snowden accomplished more by keeping his story in the media for weeks on end as opposed to surrendering to some clandestine agency that’d just lock him away without trial.


15 posted on 08/16/2013 12:45:23 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Actually, Anonymous isn’t very lockstep at all. The two primary factions that loosely work together for the sake of computer ability, are both marxists and libertarian types.

This sparks a lot of in-fighting on certain politically charged hacking targets.


16 posted on 08/16/2013 12:45:53 PM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: wbill

Agreed.


17 posted on 08/16/2013 12:45:54 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Yes I do. But based on your post #3, it may not be the same answer you’d give.


18 posted on 08/16/2013 12:47:54 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: MaxMax

Which traitors?

The ones suspending and violating the Constitution, or the ones exposing them?


19 posted on 08/16/2013 12:49:07 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: mylife
Not smart to take an oath and then use your access to break the oath.

Shhh! Easy, then. You can't insinuate anything about Big Rachel's supporter, The Annointed One! He's been getting away with it for over five years, and I'm taking a WAG here that he will never announce that you look "just like" his son...

20 posted on 08/16/2013 12:49:16 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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