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To: little jeremiah; ansel12

Sorry, but this (L) doesn’t jive with this DoD policy. This is preferential treatment of a gov’t approved group.

Now, you want to discuss vise. Liberty and Freedom come with all SORTS of ‘problems’; quandaries, choices, vices, addiction and consequences for ones’ actions. The *HORROR*.

Do *I* have a prob. w/ laws vs. vices? HELL yeah. Like to eat? ‘Over-weight’ per the State? Vice. Like to drink? No more 6-pks says the State...vice. CAN States pass those kind of Laws? Sure, if enough people allow their Reps to do so...as much as those being over-taxed, over-regulated, etc. have the ability to MOVE to a State more of their choosing.


28 posted on 08/14/2013 12:18:58 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Gov't always start as MAY and SHOULD, but soon becomes one of WILL and SHALL. Never let them START.)
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To: i_robot73

Skip this little thing about some leave time.

Are you saying that your libertarianism supports discriminating against homosexuality by the federal government, for instance, that the military should not recognize a marriage, if it is of homosexuals?


31 posted on 08/14/2013 12:35:01 PM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is radical social leftism, not economics)
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To: i_robot73

You’re comparing overeating with sodomy?

Odd.


33 posted on 08/14/2013 1:02:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: i_robot73

The libertarianism you espouse has nothing to do with Constitutional principles or the vision that founded our country. The founders of our country saw nothing wrong with laws criminalizing homosexual acts; in fact they saw such laws as necessary. Article is too long to copy in its entirety. Libertarianism as a philosophy very little to nothing in common with the founding principles of our Republic.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2242920/posts

The Founders on Homosexuality
Apologetics Press ^ | Dave Miller, Ph.D.

Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:35:50 PM by Conservative Coulter Fan

Of those living today in America who were alive 50 years ago, few could have imagined, let alone predicted, that homosexuality would encroach on our culture as it has. In fact, it would have been unthinkable. The rapidity with which homosexual activists continue successfully to bully the nation to normalize what once was universally considered abnormal is astonishing. And toleration has not satisfied them. Allowing their views to be taught in public schools has not appeased them. No, they insist that societal endorsement extend to redefining marriage to include same-sex couples.

A pernicious plague of sexual insanity is creeping insidiously through American civilization. Far more deadly than the external threat of terrorism, or even the inevitable dilution of traditional American values caused by the infiltration of illegal immigrants and the influx of those who do not share the Christian worldview, this domino effect will ultimately end in the moral implosion of America. Indeed, America is being held captive by moral terrorists. The social engineers of “political correctness” have been working overtime for decades to restructure public morality.

The Founding Fathers of these United States would be incredulous, incensed, and outraged. They understood that acceptance of homosexuality would undermine and erode the moral foundations of civilization. Sodomy, the longtime historical term for same-sex relations, was a capital crime under British common law. Sir William Blackstone, British attorney, jurist, law professor, and political philosopher, authored his monumental Commentaries on the Laws of England from 1765-1769. These commentaries became the premiere legal source admired and used by America’s Founding Fathers. In Book the Fourth, Chapter the Fifteenth, “Of Offences Against the Persons of Individuals,” Blackstone stated:

IV. WHAT has been here observed..., which ought to be the more clear in proportion as the crime is the more detestable, may be applied to another offence, of a still deeper malignity; the infamous crime against nature, committed either with man or beast.... But it is an offence of so dark a nature...that the accusation should be clearly made out....


34 posted on 08/14/2013 1:06:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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