Posted on 08/14/2013 7:02:28 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
The full quote is here: “I think there are [gay players] right now, and if they're looking for a window to just come out, I mean, now is the window. My view on it is, yes, I am a Christian, but to each his own. You do what you want to do. If some Christians want to look at being gay as a sin, then thinking about other women, committing adultery—or any of those other sins that are in the Bible—those are sins, too. And God looks at all of us the same way.”
I am NOT going to yield to your demand to “deal with the direct quotation in its entirety” because it is wholly without merit or foundation. However, I will clearly show that my statement in NO WAY twisted the plain meaning or intent of his words.
His meaning, stated more clearly is this:
Some Christians may choose to consider homosexuality a sin, while behaving sinfully themselves. We are all sinners before God.
Now let's look at what I initially posted:
“He actually makes a statement bordering on apostasy when he says: “You do what you want to do. If some Christians want to look at being gay as a sin...”
It is not a matter of Christians WANTING to view something as a sin, it is a matter of what God has said is sin - regardless of how we want to view it.
He is right, however, in pointing out some common, overlooked sins in the Christian community - but my sin does not make your sin acceptable, which is the argument he is using.
It is one thing to encourage acceptance of the sinner, a completely different thing to advocate accepting the sin.”
NOW - please point out exactly where I “added (my) spin”. Show how what I posted “...(took) his words out of context” - keeping in mind that using the phrase “taking his words out of context” only has value if the meaning was distorted or misconstrued - otherwise it is simply accusatory babble. So show exactly where I distorted or misconstrued his meaning. Did he not clearly imply that he chooses NOT to consider it sin, while other Christians DO so choose?
Show where I “avoid his other condemnations of those that sin.” (Pay particular attention to the paragraph that begins “He is right, however...”)
Your entire response to me has been intellectually dishonest. You have lied about what I have stated, you have implied I have done something I have clearly not. And you have, by throwing out accusatory gobbledygook and garbage, pretended to challenge my position while completely avoiding the very core of my argument - which is the epitome of intellectual dishonesty
RG3 is an athlete. So what? Much ado about nothing.
>>a football player will NEVER be a role model.
Certainly not the present crop of felons. But there was a day when the likes of Randy Gradishar, Craig Morton, and even Lyle Alzado and Mean Joe were folks youngsters could look up to.
>>BWAHAHAHAHAHHA not even close
“BWAHAHAHAHAHHA” is typically part of the Useful Idiot vocabulary.
YMMV.
you really are a very funny person....not a single one of the football players you named would have been on a list of my or my peers role models. Football players are not Jonas Salk or any NACA/NASA engineer (Al Sieff comes to mind as does Harvey Allen). They play a game. If they are decent people that is the extent of their import. They did nothing to prolong life. They were not surgeons or fire fighters or police officers or members of the military. Perhaps if you had picked someone like roger Staubach I could have understood. They play a game end of story. Tell me what they did with the rest of their lives and then maybe we can talk
and just so you know BWAHAHAHAHAHA is a good sized belly laugh....may or may not be evil in its intent......
It’s evident you’ve never experienced or observed the character-building exercise that just “playing a game” can be.
Too bad for you little man.
>>and just so you know BWAHAHAHAHAHA is a good sized belly laugh
Uhuh - and it’s still a significant portion of the Useful Idiot’s vocabulary.
Tom Brady hit on his knee today too!!!
Might as well draw a target on it for pre-season games. IINM, knees are the/one of the weakest, unprotected links in an athlete’s body.
Yes, yes. It IS sarcasm.
You are so wrong. But part of that character building experience INCLUDED learning that it is just a game. It is not life and death. it is not my family ( though good friendships were developed and still exist). It is a game. It is a chance to learn to accept winning with some grace and dignity and to turn loses into an opportunity to improve.
But in the end IT IS JUST A GAME
oh thank you oh so wise one.....
Up yours little man.
Libertarians would be far more receptive to live and let live gay players if the liberal PC media and the league didn’t shove the agenda down everyone’s throat (no pun intended).
It’s really between the players to decide. You can’t legislate or socially engineer mutual respect.
Nice to see not all athletes are onboard with the gays
Russian Pole vault great (a woman) condemns homosexuality at worlds
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pole-vault-great-condemns-homosexuality-worlds-165301092.html
so classy
>>It is not life and death.
For many young athletes the lessons learned on the playing field reverberate in exactly that.
Whether you want to deal with the fact is irrelevant. Professional athletes ARE what many young folks have as role models because those individuals on the screen are the models of success they’re exposed to and/or want to relate to — and that is who will try to emulate sans other constructive influences.
It is the lack of family structure and a civili society that drives young people to value ‘stardom’ over merit
Says the fool who thinks young folks won’t emulate the behavior of professional athletes.
“Hey c’mon out ya’ll, everybody sins - so pile it on, to each his own”
Meanwhile, Jesus told the woman at the well to GO AND SIN NO MORE.
Way to give Jesus Christ the middle-finger, RG. Here's a guy doing the Devil's Work and proud of it.
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