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To: MamaTexan

I don’t have time to dig up the link right now. I’ll try and do so later.

In the meantime, you can go do a google books advanced search and find it for yourself.

If you find a second edition of Bayard’s exposition (1834 or later, the original was published in 1833), it’ll give you his complete text, including his discussion of Presidential eligibility, and it will also give you his notes that tell about the reaction he had from the top legal experts of his day. These wrote him letters approving his exposition of the Constitution.

The only disagreement that any of the experts expressed was from Chief Justice John Marshall, the Great Chief Justice who had dominated the Supreme Court for decades starting shortly after the Constitution was ratified. He noted that Congress didn’t need the “assent” of the States to build post and military roads. And of course, Bayard promptly corrected the mistake.

Bayard’s discussion on Presidential eligibility is quite prominent and COMPLETELY CLEAR. A person doesn’t have to be born on US soil to be a natural born citizen. He only need to be BORN A CITIZEN.

In this, he of course agrees absolutely with our other top legal expert William Rawle, who was crystal clear that children born on US soil of alien parents were natural born citizens. Again, they didn’t have to have citizen parents. They only had to be BORN A US CITIZEN in order to be a natural born citizen, and “entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity.”


42 posted on 08/14/2013 12:28:00 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
I don’t have time to dig up the link right now. I’ll try and do so later.

Don't bother. You have got to be the single most deceptive person it has EVER been my displeasure to come across in all my time on FR....bar NONE.

Would you like to know why I said 'don't bother'?

Here's the Google results for your *quote*

Gee, I wonder why all those lead to YOUR POSTS ON FR, Jeff? I wonder why this quote can't be found ANYWHERE else on the net.

Would you like to know what a LEGITMATE quote from Bayard looks like, Jeff?

Greisser was born in the state of Ohio in 1867, his father being a German subject, and domiciled in Germany, to which country the child returned. After quoting the act of 1866 and the fourteenth amendment, Mr. Secretary Bayard said: 'Richard Greisser was, no doubt, born in the United States, but he was on his birth 'subject to a foreign power,' and 'not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.' He was not, therefore, under the statute and the constitution, a citizen of the United States by birth; and it is not pretended that he has any other title to citizenship.'
A Digest of the International Law of the United States , 1887 / Chapter VII, Page 183

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In the meantime, you can go do a google books advanced search and find it for yourself.

Do your own homework....and FOR THE SECOND TIME, REMOVE ME FROM YOUR PING LIST.

Anyone who twists the facts and truncates quotes in order to support a false argument has nothing to say that would interest me at all.

43 posted on 08/14/2013 12:40:29 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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