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To: DiogenesLamp
Well, you've nicely restated our differences over the meaning of the term natural born citizen. I took the time to understand your argument and I think you understand mine. I assume we both acknowledge that the rest of the American community has no obligation to accept either of our arguments.

However, we both retain the right to express our positions and to try to thereby influence the opinions of other voters and their electors. I encourage you to continue to develop your pitch and to communicate that pitch as effectively as you can.

You can make a difference! ;-)

332 posted on 08/15/2013 7:51:06 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
Well, you've nicely restated our differences over the meaning of the term natural born citizen. I took the time to understand your argument and I think you understand mine. I assume we both acknowledge that the rest of the American community has no obligation to accept either of our arguments.

And they currently favor your position by far.

However, we both retain the right to express our positions and to try to thereby influence the opinions of other voters and their electors. I encourage you to continue to develop your pitch and to communicate that pitch as effectively as you can.

I try, but sometimes I simply can't convey the idea. As Karl Popper said: "Always remember that it is impossible to speak in such a way that you cannot be misunderstood: "

You can make a difference! ;-)

Thank you for the encouragement, but I suspect that on this topic, no real difference can be made. The Herd mentality has pretty much made the current dominate position unassailable in terms of actual changing minds or policy. This is pretty much an academic discussion at this point.

People simply believe what they want to believe, and they are CERTAIN in their beliefs. They do not want to HEAR contrary beliefs. (Note fingers in Ear img posted above.) :)

But once again, thanks for making an effort to see both sides.

335 posted on 08/15/2013 8:32:36 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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