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To: DiogenesLamp
I understand your point. But, then, Richard Nixon was born in Yorba Linda, California (which wasn't part of the United States in 1787). Maybe the term "United States" in "natural born citizen . . . of the United States" was intended to be flexible enough to include new states that might be added in the future. Similarly, maybe the term "citizen" in "natural born citizen" was intended to be flexible enough to include new circumstances under which someone can be born a citizen of the United States that might be added in the future.

But, of course, it's just another argument to pitch to the voters and their electors. Perhaps the more they hear and consider, the better will be their choices. ;-)

321 posted on 08/14/2013 6:28:02 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
I understand your point. But, then, Richard Nixon was born in Yorba Linda, California (which wasn't part of the United States in 1787). Maybe the term "United States" in "natural born citizen . . . of the United States" was intended to be flexible enough to include new states that might be added in the future.

Your argument above is an example of confirmation bias. You regard the salient aspect of birth to be PLACE of birth, while the argument my side has been making has been Inheritance from Citizen Parents. Was Richard Nixon's Parents American Citizens? Yes. Then the essential condition is met. He was able to inherit his national character from his parents.

Similarly, maybe the term "citizen" in "natural born citizen" was intended to be flexible enough to include new circumstances under which someone can be born a citizen of the United States that might be added in the future.

What is "natural" is not flexible. Natural characteristics must be inherited. Anything else is adoption.

328 posted on 08/15/2013 6:46:34 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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