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To: Nero Germanicus

Sorry, but I don’t consider that a trial on the merits of the case. The judge relied on precedents in decisions that were unrelated to Presidential eligibility.

The courts played this game for decades in 2nd Amendment cases. The Supreme avoided making an actual decision for political reasons, letting lower courts misinterpret decisions that were only tangentially related, and in many cases were flat wrong. It went on for so long that gun control proponents were calling it “settled law”.

DC v. Heller finally put a stop to it. There was no change to the Constitution. The Court finally considered the plain language in the context and era it was written, and concluded what every honest person knew all along.

Until enough Supreme Court justices have the courage to take on this case, and competent plaintiffs present it (unlike the circus in GA), this case will not be heard on the merits.


151 posted on 08/13/2013 6:54:14 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: justlurking

I don’t think that the current court has any interest.

Obama Eligibility Appeals At the Supreme Court of the United States

Anderson v. Obama: Denied a motion for leave to file a petition for rehearing in a case challenging the Patient Protection and Affordable Health Care Act, where the petition sought an order compelling
(a) the U.S. Marshals to travel to Hawaii;
(b) the Hawaii Department of Health to release the “original” birth certificate of Obama to the U.S. Marshals;
(c) the U.S. Marshals to bring the certificate to the Supreme Court; and
(d) the U.S. Secret Service to examine and verify whether the document is a forgery).

Berg v. Obama: Application for Stay of 2008 election denied; Cert. Petition Denied. Obama is not eligible due to Obama’s birth in Mombassa, Kenya and his Hawaii birth certificate is a forgery.

Beverly v. Federal Elections Commission: Cert. Petition Denied. Plaintiff was a write-in candidate for president who was denied his rights due to the states not properly vetting Obama. FEC should not have certified general election results.

Craig v. U.S. Cert. Petition Denied. Appeal seeking to compel the federal government to define by statute who is and who isn’t a natural born citizen.

Donofrio v. Wells: Application for a Stay of 2008 election results being certified until Obama proves his eligibility.

Farrar v. Obama: Application for Stay Denied by Justice Thomas and Cert. Petition Denied by the Court. Rejection of the challenge to Obama’s eligibility to appear on 2012 ballot; refusing to stay or hear lower court finding that Obama was born in U.S. and is a “natural born citizen.”

Herbert v. United States: Cert. Petition Denied. Dismissal of a complaint alleging that Obama is not natural born citizen.

Hollister v. Soetoro: Cert. Denied. Dismissal of an interpleader case challenging Obama’s eligibility as a natural born citizen.

Kerchner, et. al. v. Obama, et. al.: Cert. Denied. Obama does not qualify as a natural born citizen and Congress failed to verify Obama’s eligibility.
Keyes, et. al. v. Bowen, Obama et. al.: Cert. Petition Denied-Obama is not a natural born citizen. He has a Kenyan birth certificate and his father was not a citizen.

Lightfoot v. Bowen: Application denied for stay of 2008 election until Obama’s eligibility is determined.

Purpura v. Sibelius: Petition for Cert. Denied. Dismissal of a case challenging the Patient Protection and Affordable Care on various grounds, including that was not signed into law by a person eligible to be President of the United States.

Rhodes v. MacDonald: Application for stay Denied for $20,000 sanction against plaintiff’s attorney for filing a frivolous lawsuit.
Cert. Petition Denied. Dismissal of a case seeking to postpone the deployment to Iraq of an Army Dentist until Obama’s Article II, Section 1 credentials are examined.

Schneller v. Cortes: Application for stay and Cert. Petition Denied. Dismissal of a case seeking to stop the 2008 election and have the Court rule on Obama’s eligibility as a natural born citizen.

ex rel. Sibley v. Obama: Cert. Petition and Petition for Rehearing Denied. Dismissal of a complaint containing, among other things, petition for writs “quo warranto” to remove President Obama from his current office and, also or alternatively, to bar him from running for the office of president again in the November 2012 election.

Sibley v. D.C. Board of Elections: Cert. Petition Denied. Dismissal of a complaint challenging Obama’s eligibility to be on 2012 general election ballot.

Weldon v. Obama: Cert. Petition Denied. Dismissal of ballot challenge to Obama’s eligibility to be on the Georgia ballot.

Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz: Application for stay Denied. Dismissal of a case asking for a stay of general election results due to Obama being an ineligible candidate.


183 posted on 08/13/2013 7:58:49 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: justlurking
DC v. Heller finally put a stop to it. There was no change to the Constitution. The Court finally considered the plain language in the context and era it was written, and concluded what every honest person knew all along.

You put far too much faith in the competence of our legal process. The reason we got the correct decision was because we got sensible judges instead of liberal kooks. Had the court been full of Liberal Kooks as it had been most years since Roosevelt, it would have gone the other way.

My point is this. Legal decisions by the Supreme court often have more to do with the Judge's personal preferences than they have to do with a correct understanding of the law.

Until enough Supreme Court justices have the courage to take on this case, and competent plaintiffs present it (unlike the circus in GA), this case will not be heard on the merits.

Until a sufficient number of thoughtful and competent judges are in place, this case will not be heard on the merits. So many judges are brainwashed by their legal training that they will reject contrary evidence without even considering it.

271 posted on 08/14/2013 7:58:35 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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