Posted on 08/13/2013 7:04:15 AM PDT by Publius804
The greatest generation. They saved the world during WW 2 and the cold war. Plus gave to the world one of its greatest Popes, Blessed, soon to be declared a saint, John Paul II.
I view what you have said as just an opinion. Go with the word “cycles”.
I have a friend who runs 3 businesses.
He laments that he cannot find workers to do the most simple manual labor. Nor can they be depended upon to get up in the morning & do chores.
I reminded him that he & I were raised when doing the best job you could meant something. When you took extra good care of animals who couldn’t fend for themselves. When if an employer gave you the chance to prove yourself, you worked hard to do exactly that.
I did lots of things when I was under 25 years old, including pick strawberries when I was too young to get a legal work permit. Of course, I still lived at home and didn’t have to pay room & board, but that money was mine & I learned to ration it wisely.
I also worked in offices, in a factory making parts for air distribution panels, selling auto parts & mixing auto paint & in a tire store—dismounting & mounting tires, in a machine shop—the shop portion.
I have watched my oldest brother give lavish gifts to his 3 kids—including 3 brand new Artic Cat snowmobiles—when they were 10-12-13 years old respectively. They grew up thinking there was no limit to what their parents would give them, and only one applied herself to her schoolwork. The oldest & the youngest were not even mediocre students & both of them think they ‘are all that & a bag of chips’.
My brother raised both of his 1st 2 grandkids, as the oldest couldn’t seem to stop partying.
The youngest still owes me rent money from 1988 & laughs about it. Today, he lives in a multi-million $$$ house. Ask me how much I think of all of them!!!
The best comment from my brother! “How come you never send my kids birthday presents & nice Christmas presents?” I told him I could not compete with Artic Cat snowmobiles and that anything I gave them would fall way short in their expectations.
There has been far too much high living & handouts to the max given to his kids & his grandkids.
Rules? NOT for them!!
Morals? I have proof they were holding parties with drinking & drugs inside my brother’s house when he & SIL were out of town for a weekend. These were high school age kids. Never should have left them alone.
Brother still thinks his kids are pure as driven snow & they never have done anything wrong. These ethics have been passed onto the grandkids & now the whole country is blessed with yet another generation that doesn’t know how to WORK.
My friend actually had to give lessons to a new employee about HOW TO FILL UP A WATER TANK for his horses!!!! Let’s see—Hose-—turn on water—put hose into tank—monitor & move hose when tank is full—turn off water—put hose away. Hardly rocket science material!!!
I am beyond glad that I don’t have a business that requires me to hire & evaluate any new employees. It’s akin to finding another 5 carat diamond in that Arkansas State Park.
Come to think of it, I could probably do that sooner!!
What is now Turkey, Syria, Egypt and Libya.
That was the place that Christianity flourished for a long time. Produced most of the early Church Fathers. Now almost all Muslim.
They had there lamp stand removed. What makes you think our nation will be any different?
I have a friend who runs 3 businesses.
He laments that he cannot find workers to do the most simple manual labor. Nor can they be depended upon to get up in the morning & do chores.
I reminded him that he & I were raised when doing the best job you could meant something. When you took extra good care of animals who couldn’t fend for themselves. When if an employer gave you the chance to prove yourself, you worked hard to do exactly that.
I did lots of things when I was under 25 years old, including pick strawberries when I was too young to get a legal work permit. Of course, I still lived at home and didn’t have to pay room & board, but that money was mine & I learned to ration it wisely.
I also worked in offices, in a factory making parts for air distribution panels, selling auto parts & mixing auto paint & in a tire store—dismounting & mounting tires, in a machine shop—the shop portion.
I have watched my oldest brother give lavish gifts to his 3 kids—including 3 brand new Artic Cat snowmobiles—when they were 10-12-13 years old respectively. They grew up thinking there was no limit to what their parents would give them, and only one applied herself to her schoolwork. The oldest & the youngest were not even mediocre students & both of them think they ‘are all that & a bag of chips’.
My brother raised both of his 1st 2 grandkids, as the oldest couldn’t seem to stop partying.
The youngest still owes me rent money from 1988 & laughs about it. Today, he lives in a multi-million $$$ house. Ask me how much I think of all of them!!!
The best comment from my brother! “How come you never send my kids birthday presents & nice Christmas presents?” I told him I could not compete with Artic Cat snowmobiles and that anything I gave them would fall way short in their expectations.
There has been far too much high living & handouts to the max given to his kids & his grandkids.
Rules? NOT for them!!
Morals? I have proof they were holding parties with drinking & drugs inside my brother’s house when he & SIL were out of town for a weekend. These were high school age kids. Never should have left them alone.
Brother still thinks his kids are pure as driven snow & they never have done anything wrong. These ethics have been passed onto the grandkids & now the whole country is blessed with yet another generation that doesn’t know how to WORK.
My friend actually had to give lessons to a new employee about HOW TO FILL UP A WATER TANK for his horses!!!! Let’s see—Hose-—turn on water—put hose into tank—monitor & move hose when tank is full—turn off water—put hose away. Hardly rocket science material!!!
I am beyond glad that I don’t have a business that requires me to hire & evaluate any new employees. It’s akin to finding another 5 carat diamond in that Arkansas State Park.
Come to think of it, I could probably do that sooner!!
The job my husband was forced to take a few years ago gives him a whooping two weeks per year vacation time.:”””””
I certainly don’t know how many weeks vacation time you are accustomed to, but every job I ever worked gave ONE week after a year of service and 2 weeks after 2 full years of satisfactory service. Only one place gave 3 weeks——after 15 years of service.
When I was growing up, there wasn’t even a way to video the kids first birthday. We used regular film & pictures.
I will remind parents all across America:
IF you have done a good job with your kids from their first breath, they can leave the nest & do well on their own. IF you keep thinking they cannot do without you, then perhaps you didn’t do as good a job as you think.
I will bet that your parents & grandparents didn’t hover over your life after you got married & had kids.
There should be a license required for all the helicopter parents in America today!
I think you might re-examine this & be VERY happy for your child & spouse to have new jobs that pay them more & possibly have more room for advancement. Your grandchildren will have many birthdays. You will attend many of them. Besides—how expensive is a bus ticket to get there for the party you desire to attend?
Also voted for a progressive president four times and shackled future generations to Social Security and ever increasing federal power. Did a lousy job raising their kids.
I guess we'll have to agree-to-disagree; the only cycle I see us going through is the Tytler cycle, which requires some very dark times before generations get better.
Well, in fact when he still worked for Lexis-Nexis ( a name I’m sure many recognize) he had 7 weeks vacation. Then even liberal enclave Lexis outsourced his job to India.
Now thanks to Obama’s housing market, we can’t retire until we sell the family home.
Almost 9.5 boomer men served, and by no means was it all about Vietnam since Vietnam ended before many boomers were even of age to serve.
If you didn't serve, then that would indeed separate you from millions of boomer males.
Boomers are those born 1946 through 1964, so think age 19 in 1965.
The first presidential election in which all boomers were old enough to vote, was 1984, Reagan's second term.
Not anymore for America, it will never be what it was because the WWII and older generations destroyed it.
Democrats wrote a law to replace the American voter, peoples and culture, even religion, which means there will never be another cycle returning us to what used to be American culture and freedom, and Americanism.
From unionizing government, to Vietnam, to the 1965 Immigration Act, JFK was the end of us.
“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s. In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin. After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”
Those generations destroyed Western Civilization with a flurry of immigration laws and leftism of the 1930s through the 1970s which made it impossible to recover from, they gave us the Cold War which boomers and the Silent Generation fought and died in for the next 45 years.
Your opinion. But do not forget that many hardy folks came from that generation that took on the challenges of their time.
Remember it took three people, Reagan,Thatcher, and John Paul II to bring the Iron Curtin DOWN.
What you said is your opinion and your opinion only.
....And I STAND by my position.
This is a dumb article. Millenials are GenXers kids, maybe a little crossover. I remember when I was young they called GenXers lazy, unmotivated, the kind of “whatever” group.
” and by no means was it all about Vietnam”
That depends what you mean by “it”...
My post (it) refers only to the time specific to the Vietnam war and the remainder of the 1970’s and how all of that was going on when I was too young to have any real involvement.
I worked as a civilian one-year temp with the Army during Desert Storm (GS-9) and as I recall it, there was no significant public anti-war sentiment and for all intents and purposes, we won that war as it was intended to be waged.
I am not offended by your assertion that I am by proxy of never having served as an enlisted regular or reservist, separated from “millions of boomer males”.
BTW, I think you meant to say 9.5 million...Or was that 9.5 BILLION served? Whatever it is, it’s a whole lotta hamburger.
Xers
maybe even worse than boomers which were bad enuff on whole
i’m a boomer parent and have young kids for an old fart but deal with parents 10-20 years younger than me and 10 years younger on average than dear wifey
how young folks parent amazes me..it’s like Spock on adderal
ubercoddling moms
dominant women in family even if stay at home
metero dads
afraid to let boys be boys...boys stay inside all day and play games...up to 15 or so...and guns...maybe airsoft if they are lucky
over sexualized girls
PC on hot issues
and I live in a veruy conservative county in middle TN with churches everywhere
when i was in Oregon recently...western part...i thought i was in some weird sci fi movie
it is cloyingly PC
kids...you can judge freedom today by how few helmets and kneepads they were for crap we woulda done naked
this is what killed white men in the west
“It” being the period for military service of the boomers which goes well beyond Vietnam and involves the boomers serving even today, which for you ran to about 1986 for normal enlistment, a time of great patriotism.
Vietnam by the way, was an overwhelmingly volunteer war, unlike WWII, when all branches of the service drafted and 93% of the Army service was by draftees.
The Vietnam war was won by the young fighting men, a war in which they never lost a major battle, it was politically given up by the American government within a couple of years after the 1973 peace accords, and the U.S returning home.
You are correct and thanks for posting that. American history, including our military history should be front and center in our schools if not in the home.
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