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To: sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun

“I guess here is the problem : why cant conservatives (not you and me but those who can get time on TV /cable news, esp members of congress) be proposing specific alternate ideas to make it easier for people to save for their retirement ?? There was a time when they had ideas.”

The only way to achieve this is to propose largely market-oriented alternatives to Social Security and Medicare, which will make subsequent generations less dependent on them. That way, they’ll be more open to reforming them and making them solvent and making them increasingly a less central factor in retirement years.

The idea of government getting their grubby mits on my private retirement is unacceptable. I think that it’s the ultimate goal of Obama & Company. They want to use them for their spending programs and prevent people from having alternatives to Social Security and Medicare.


113 posted on 08/10/2013 9:19:28 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Muslims are a people of tolerance, life,and peace, and if you don't agree, they'll murder you)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Every Democrat idea has, at its crux, the goal of stealing money from successful people and doling it out to buy votes.

What a deal! You use money that isn’t yours to benefit and aggrandize yourself - all in the name of “compassion” and “fairness”.

It’s a crying shame it’s so easy for them to get away with it.


116 posted on 08/10/2013 1:57:01 PM PDT by randita
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To: Clintonfatigued; Gilbo_3; MD Expat in PA; Yosemitest; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; ...
RE :”The idea of government getting their grubby mits on my private retirement is unacceptable. I think that it’s the ultimate goal of Obama & Company. They want to use them for their spending programs and prevent people from having alternatives to Social Security and Medicare.”

That is NOT what this House bill at link proposes.
This bill directs employees to set up IRAs for employees that they can opt out of.

And those private savings accounts for retirement can invest in private bonds or funds.

But naturally this just HAS to be spun into ‘AHAH,Obama making his move to seize all our savings’ .

But first before he can steal most Americans $$$ which many have NONE he has to get the GOP to twick us into saving money for retirement, so he can then steal it. How about this ?? Lets foil Obama by each of us spending ourselves into bankruptcy. Then he cant steal nothing. We all go n food stamps and Obama-care then we win.

Oh brother.

118 posted on 08/10/2013 10:26:59 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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