thx but neither are in my area and i can't mail order ammo any more because of the CommieRAT POS in Albany, i just gotta wait till the Sept gunshow in Rochester...thx but neither are in my area and i can't mail order ammo any more because of the CommieRAT POS in Albany, i just gotta wait till the Sept gunshow in Rochester...I believe you can mail order ammo until jan 15, 2014.