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In Need of a New Hip, but Priced Out of the U.S.
New York Times ^ | 03 August 2013 | Elisabeth Rosenthal

Posted on 08/08/2013 4:38:03 PM PDT by Lorianne

Michael Shopenn’s artificial hip was made by a company based in this remote town, a global center of joint manufacturing. But he had to fly to Europe to have it installed.

Mr. Shopenn, 67, an architectural photographer and avid snowboarder, had been in such pain from arthritis that he could not stand long enough to make coffee, let alone work. He had health insurance, but it would not cover a joint replacement because his degenerative disease was related to an old sports injury, thus considered a pre-existing condition.

Desperate to find an affordable solution, he reached out to a sailing buddy with friends at a medical device manufacturer, which arranged to provide his local hospital with an implant at what was described as the “list price” of $13,000, with no markup. But when the hospital’s finance office estimated that the hospital charges would run another $65,000, not including the surgeon’s fee, he knew he had to think outside the box, and outside the country.

“That was a third of my savings at the time,” Mr. Shopenn said recently from the living room of his condo in Boulder, Colo. “It wasn’t happening.”

“Very leery” of going to a developing country like India or Thailand, which both draw so-called medical tourists, he ultimately chose to have his hip replaced in 2007 at a private hospital outside Brussels for $13,660. That price included not only a hip joint, made by Warsaw-based Zimmer Holdings, but also all doctors’ fees, operating room charges, crutches, medicine, a hospital room for five days, a week in rehab and a round-trip ticket from America

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: artificialhip; hipreplacement; medicaldevices; medicaltourism
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1 posted on 08/08/2013 4:38:04 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Indonesia is a lot cheaper than Thailand now for medical treatment. That would be the first country to check out.


2 posted on 08/08/2013 4:42:15 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Lorianne

I don’t believe this. Every ailment you get after 65 is from a “pre-existing” condition.

I just had my knee replaced. The hospital bill was $50k and with Medicare, and my supplement, I paid $1000. It’s just the low cost AARP supplement. My husband had a brain tumor removed 2 years ago — price tag $100k out of pocket %3000. The doctor said that he probably had had the tumor (slow growing, non malignent) for 30 years.


3 posted on 08/08/2013 4:43:08 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Lorianne

Sad: It used to be that others would travel to America for affordable healthcare.

Glad: He got affordable treatment outside the country.


4 posted on 08/08/2013 4:45:50 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: Lorianne

The point this article misses is that this is exactly the way a free market is supposed to work!


5 posted on 08/08/2013 4:51:17 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: stars & stripes forever

The health insurance problem in this country could be fixed tomorrow, just like the Social Security problem. The Government doesn’t WANT to fix these problems.


6 posted on 08/08/2013 4:52:27 PM PDT by cumbo78
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To: Lorianne

If you can’t get a new hip then get a new hop, which is not to say, “get with the hip-hop”!


7 posted on 08/08/2013 4:59:01 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

That’s not very nice, it’s a very painful and debilitating condition.


8 posted on 08/08/2013 5:02:08 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: stars & stripes forever

I don’t think people ever traveled to this country for “affordable” health care; they traveled to this country for timely health care (waiting lists for socialist health care at home) or very-good health care (for exceptionally difficult diseases).


9 posted on 08/08/2013 5:03:11 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Lorianne
Should have used this Doctor. One of the best in the country.
10 posted on 08/08/2013 5:03:23 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Lorianne
He had health insurance, but it would not cover a joint replacement because his degenerative disease was related to an old sports injury, thus considered a pre-existing condition.

This story is complete BULLSHIT! I play senior softball and my manager just underwent knee replacement two weeks ago, another guy on my team had a hip replacement last winter, another friend had knee replacement last summer, ..........I can name another dozen guys who had either their hips or knees replaced and they were ALL due to prior injuries they incurred during their softball careers..........

11 posted on 08/08/2013 5:07:39 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: Lorianne; a fool in paradise

You can’t be hip any more in America!


12 posted on 08/08/2013 5:09:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Lorianne; a fool in paradise

You can’t be hip any more in America!


13 posted on 08/08/2013 5:09:18 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Lorianne
I had a hip replacement a few years ago.I'm middle class (far,far,*far* from rich),suburban,have always worked for a living,am neither powerful *or* "connected".I had to pay a $250 co-pay to have the hip replaced by a senior surgeon at one of the world's finest hospitals.

If an ordinary guy like me can experience *that* it can't be *that* difficult...or unusual.

14 posted on 08/08/2013 5:19:00 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Yep.


15 posted on 08/08/2013 5:31:15 PM PDT by TheDon (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
This story is complete BULLSHIT! I

I imagine different insurance companies do things differently, so that could be the problem.

16 posted on 08/08/2013 5:51:44 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

At age 65 he should be on Medicare if he’s living in the USA.
That’s footing the bill for 80%, right?


17 posted on 08/08/2013 5:53:58 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Lorianne

I guess I may have missed something. I’m older than he is, have medicare and tricare for life which paid for my hip replacement just a few months ago. Did he not have medicare etc?


18 posted on 08/08/2013 5:55:39 PM PDT by mupcat
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To: nascarnation; mupcat

I am over 65, still working, and receiving health care insurance from my employer, not Medicare. Maybe he is in the same situation.


19 posted on 08/08/2013 6:03:58 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I read the NYT text.

This happened back in 2007 so the fellow than was only 61.


20 posted on 08/08/2013 6:14:33 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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