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Juries should be replaced by Watson the computer (She doesn't agree w/Zimmerman verdict)
Diane Francis website ^ | August 5, 2013 | Diane Francis

Posted on 08/05/2013 8:02:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The acquittal of George Zimmerman, like the O.J. Simpson acquittal years ago, calls into question the validity of the jury system. Perhaps it’s time to replace it with panels of legal experts or with a smart computer like Watson, the world champion of chess and Jeopardy.

The practice of asking peers, or jurors, to sit in judgment has been around since ancient Greece and Rome. This was to provide a check and balance against tyrants or government-sanctioned officials. It was devised to tap collective wisdom as opposed to allowing one individual to determine the fate of another. Unfortunately, juries fall short and cases and laws are more complex than ever.

This is why courts must educate juries and spend a great deal of time doing so. An excessive amount of time is spent picking and choosing jurors, to cull the bigoted or brain dead, from the pool of prospects. Then once the trial begins, too much time and money must be spent training the chosen jurors. Unfortunately, there is no guarantee of success, witness some of the comments made by two jurors in interviews following the Zimmerman acquittal. One stated that she acceded to the others because unanimity was required (which is not the case) and another that intention had to be established to convict Zimmerman, also inaccurate.

The wisdom and efficacy of the jury box in both criminal and civil cases should be re-evaluated, particularly in the United States where it is over-used.

“I agree the jury system is imperfect,” said Heather Bird, a former journalist and now criminal defence lawyer licensed in the U.S. and Canada. “but it’s a check and balance on the fact that the prosecutors have all the power. Then you have the judge, who is elevated but also part of the government. So you need the defence there to say to the government `go ahead and prove it’ then you need a jury to decide whether that was accomplished.”

The Grand Jury system is unique to the U.S. and highly questionable for several reasons. Grand Juries are held in secret, jurors hear only one side of the story, the prosecutor’s, then must decide whether to indict, or to lay charges. There is a judge present but no press or public. Among New York’s defence lawyers, there’s a joke that “in New York you can indict a ham sandwich”.

In Canada, there is no Grand Jury system and judges determine whether charges should be laid against individuals. Judges and prosecutors in Canada are also not politicized and are civil servants, not elected officials as is the case in many parts of the United States.

Juries don’t determine whether someone will be charged in Canada but a “preliminary hearing” is held before a professional judge to determine if a trial is needed. Reporters can be present but cannot report on the proceedings and the information is sealed so as not to prejudice the defendant’s right to a trial should one occur.

In U.S. trials, juries are the norm. In state-level courts, the accused can choose a jury or judge, but federal offences require jury trial unless the prosecution grants permission for a judge trial. In Canada, the use of juries varies with the crime. Minor offences are before judges, those charged with serious charges can choose jury or judge but the government determines who will hear cases involving property, fraud or probation offences. And juries are mandatory when it comes to treason, threatens to officials, sedition, murder, war crimes or bribery of a judge.

Another difference between the United States and other countries is that jurors can be interviewed after a trial by the press. They can talk about what transpired inside the jury room, blame one another and write books about it.

“In Canada, the Criminal Code does not allow jurors to disseminate what happens in the jury room,” she said. “I have problems with jurors being interviewed, but the argument in favor of allowing it is that it does introduce more transparency into the process.”

Clearly, the best way to adjudicate would be to devise a system that eliminates poor judgment, ignorance, emotion, theatrics, media pressure and questionable verdicts. Enlisting the efforts of a Watson-like mechanical genius to weigh the scales of justice is, theoretically, ideal. After all, computers fly the airplanes we use and run just about everything else in our lives.

Maybe it’s time to eliminate human error in our justice system too.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: juries; jurors; trayvon; trayvonstroops; zimmerman
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The elite would love to deprive us of a jury trial.
1 posted on 08/05/2013 8:02:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe the Emperor will bring back thumb up or thumb down


2 posted on 08/05/2013 8:04:33 PM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This bimbo appears to have a problem with SELF DEFENSE. Sorry Diana, SELF DEFENSE has been around since the beginning of time. It will always be around.


3 posted on 08/05/2013 8:05:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Senator Foghorn says, You should never resist being raped, robbed, beat down or murdered.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And juries are mandatory when it comes to treason, threatens to officials, sedition, murder, war crimes or bribery of a judge.

So, they use the Canadian system as the basis for changing ours, but the Canadian system would have called for a jury trial in the Zimmerman case.

4 posted on 08/05/2013 8:06:36 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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Watson would have found Zimmerman not guilty.

Then every Best Buy in America would have been looted of their computers for “Justice for Trayvon!”; and numerous articles would be written by black authors pointing out that Watson was programmed by white men and thus must be biased.


5 posted on 08/05/2013 8:06:59 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve seen Star Trek. This doesn’t turn out so well.


6 posted on 08/05/2013 8:07:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
She writes for Canada's National Post and the Huffington Post here.
7 posted on 08/05/2013 8:08:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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What a, well I was tempted to say boring website, but that isn’t really the right word.

She seems to marvel in dual citizenship, and has written this just to talk about ... dual citizenship.

Gosh.

That’s fascinating.


8 posted on 08/05/2013 8:08:12 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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Even the most sophisticated expert systems could not administer the law. After 250 years the laws on the books are so contradictory, so vague, so illogical I think Watson would have a nervous break down if you asked him to.

Give me a verdict Watson.

I’m sorry Dave, I can’t do that.

But it would be a valuable effort to try. It may convince people that we need to do a major overhaul of our legal system.


9 posted on 08/05/2013 8:08:49 PM PDT by DManA
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Is this person for real? Surely not as she keeps contradicting herself with every point she makes.


10 posted on 08/05/2013 8:09:07 PM PDT by NTegraT (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, now that Obozo has trashed marriage between one man and one woman, it’s time for him to get rid of the rest of the trappings of the Common Law.


11 posted on 08/05/2013 8:09:12 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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someone is sitting on your chest, bashing in your face

can you defend yourself?

WATSON: “Only when you are black”

lolz


12 posted on 08/05/2013 8:10:11 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: JCBreckenridge

Polygamy by 2015. You heard it here first.


13 posted on 08/05/2013 8:10:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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and the presumption of innocence


14 posted on 08/05/2013 8:10:31 PM PDT by GeronL
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Problem is that computers can’t smell bullshit being spread by lawyers, that’s why we need real people.


15 posted on 08/05/2013 8:10:41 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time since I escaped Canuckistan. DF used to be a pragmatic writer for the Post, which is the canadian version of the WSJ. For her to even compare canuck justice system vs US is just a waste of time. The jury system in America allows citizens to partake in the jury system and it is flawed. Then again with my experience there, the judges in canada, city to provincial, don’t know their brains from their asses.


16 posted on 08/05/2013 8:12:19 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the OJ verdict, the vast majority thought he was guilty.

In the Trayvon verdict the vast majority thought the verdict was just.


17 posted on 08/05/2013 8:12:39 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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(Thanks for posting this article)

And this ‘computer jury’.... would it work as well as our ‘electronic voting system’ ?

Actually, after reading most of the article, it seems like replacing everyone but the jury with ‘computers’ would be a better solution.


18 posted on 08/05/2013 8:14:16 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Diane Francis should be replaced with a blender.


19 posted on 08/05/2013 8:14:32 PM PDT by moovova
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Is this person for real?

As real as Obama's girlfriend.

20 posted on 08/05/2013 8:16:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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