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Paul Ryan and Obamacare: Can he stop Ted Cruz's government shutdown?
US News and World Report's DC Decoder ^ | August 4, 2013 | Mark Sappenfield, deputy nat'l news editor

Posted on 08/04/2013 7:27:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Rep. Paul Ryan (R) of Wisconsin inserted himself Sunday into what could be possibly one of the the more remarkable debates ever to hit Capitol Hill.

Speaking on CBS's "Face the Nation," Representative Ryan said he was not in favor of shutting down the government as a way of forcing Democrats to repeal President Obama's health-care law – a political tactic some Republicans, such as Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, have advocated. Instead, he said "there are more effective ways of achieving that goal" – though he was not asked to name any.

What is remarkable about the debate is that Democrats aren't going to repeal Obamacare. Ever. Nor does the Republican Party have any conceivable political lever to make them do so. A government shutdown will not defund Obamacare, nor will it likely change anyone's opinion about it.

And yet many Republicans are undaunted – and with good reason.

More than the debt-ceiling debate of 2011 or this year's angst over the sequester, the current talk of resorting to a government shutdown to defund Obamacare speaks to the changing character of Capitol Hill....

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obama; obamacare; paulryan; tedcruz
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See the slant? They like Ryan as long as he's caving to Obama.
1 posted on 08/04/2013 7:27:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has Sen. Ryan offered any other way to stop O-care?
If so, let’s consider it.
If not, then let’s tell him to get in line to help solve this important problem, now while it can still be solved/stopped.


2 posted on 08/04/2013 7:33:53 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

this is not going to be Cruz’s government shutdown. It should not be blamed on the Republicans. I understand they will include all the money to run the government, except for Obamacare. That money will be omitted. Did I read it right??


3 posted on 08/04/2013 7:34:19 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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” - - - Representative Ryan said he was not in favor of shutting down the government as a way of forcing Democrats to repeal President Obama’s health-care law - - - “

No means no, is a concept that Rep. Ryan has yet to learn.

Now Rep. Ryan has become Commie Enabler for Commune-Style Obama’care.’

BTW, didn’t the RINOs run this Welfare Republican for Veep in 2012?


4 posted on 08/04/2013 7:38:24 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: elpadre

Jim DeMint outlined it exactly as we should. Obama is shutting down the government in order to keep in place a bill that has been dubbed by its architect ‘a train wreck’, and the majority of Americans have hated since inception. There are no other sticking points. Obamacare is it.

This is a media winner, but our leaders are too stupid, and no doubt you’ll have Ryan on the Sunday shows again when it shuts down saying that Republicans have shut down the government.


5 posted on 08/04/2013 7:40:32 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: elpadre
this is not going to be Cruz’s government shutdown.

Congress would pass the CRs. Obama would be the one NOT to sign them. It would be Obama's shutdown. If Paul Ryan says that it would be Congress who is shutting down the government then he is a propagandist.

6 posted on 08/04/2013 7:41:42 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Paul Ryan trying to save ObamaCare?


7 posted on 08/04/2013 7:42:52 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ryan is a coward and a weakling.
Good grief! This punk was once viewed as possible presidential timber? No thanks.


8 posted on 08/04/2013 7:42:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: faithhopecharity

He’s a congressman, not a senator.


9 posted on 08/04/2013 7:43:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


10 posted on 08/04/2013 7:43:46 PM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, FReeper Extraordinaire Doctor Raoul...)
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To: Lancey Howard

What gets me is that Milt passed over Sarah Palin for this Howdy Doody looking guy.


11 posted on 08/04/2013 7:44:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What the hell does Ryan care? These bastards are going to exempt themselves from it anyway.

They are too busy trying to flood the US with a permanent underclass for their corporate masters.


12 posted on 08/04/2013 7:49:11 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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Lots of true colors are coming out on this and it ain't a pretty sight for conservatives, we need to remember these Rinos.
13 posted on 08/04/2013 7:52:05 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: Lancey Howard

GOP-E


14 posted on 08/04/2013 7:53:25 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The loss of most earmarks has made it tougher for legislative leaders to control their members. The future will be harder to predict than before.


15 posted on 08/04/2013 7:53:52 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe that they are in two different Houses so as long as Cruz blocks it in the Senate Ryan can do nothing about that in house.

Unless ‘Cruz’s shutdown’ depends on Ryan blocking after Senate passes a budget. But that would be very lame.

He is in the Senate so that is where it needs to be killed.


16 posted on 08/04/2013 7:58:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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Paul Ryan is a damn fool. worthless POS that made a fool out of me and a hell of a lot of other people


17 posted on 08/04/2013 8:06:23 PM PDT by thestob (Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan are determined to destroy our country)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So...what does Big Obama have on Paul Ryan?


18 posted on 08/04/2013 8:07:43 PM PDT by madison10
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“So...what does Big Obama have on Paul Ryan?”

Exactly what I was wondering. Probably something similar that he had on Roberts and Rubio.


19 posted on 08/04/2013 8:12:10 PM PDT by willk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes. Thank u.


20 posted on 08/04/2013 8:15:37 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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