Posted on 08/04/2013 3:07:27 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
Edited on 08/04/2013 4:27:41 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
MONROE — The days are numbered for the F-86L Sabre jet which sits on its grassy tarmac in the rear of what’s known as Airplane Park in Monroe.
The aircraft will soon be taken on a departing flatbed flight to its final destination, which the Village of Monroe expects will be determined by the Air Force, its true owner.
It comes down to money.
Because of the significant costs associated with repairing and maintaining the plane, combined with the village’s recent decision to purchase the decagon-shaped gazebo and its desire to be fiscally prudent, officials have contacted the Air Force and asked it to take the airplane back.
If the Air Force doesn’t want it, the village will follow Air Force instructions on how to dispose of it.
“We have to watch how we spend dollars,” Mayor James Purcell said Monday. “We want to ship the plane back to the government. That plane’s been there (in the back corner of the park) for about eight years like that (in disrepair). The cost to repair the plane would cost the village too much. Right now, we have no takers for the plane. It’s owned by the U.S. Air Force. We did get estimates to rehabilitate the plane and the costs are quite extensive. “
Financial decision
Those costs are an estimated $36,000 to $46,000 to put the plane back into the “pristine condition it was 50 years ago,” Purcell said. And that excludes the ongoing maintenance and security costs that would be needed afterward.
Purcell said the board wishes it had the resources to keep the plane and understands its decision will not sit well with some residents who consider the airplane to be a long-term symbol in the village.
But at a time when municipalities have limited available resources, the mayor said, the village board opted to spend money on the new $17,000 gazebo. He said the board believed many more people would benefit from using that new structure for any reason - to read, rest or socialize - during a visit to the village.
“You have to make a financial decision at the end of the day,” said Purcell. “Irene (Conklin, a village trustee) pressed for the gazebo and the board made the decision to go with the gazebo. There’s a larger (public) benefit in the use of the gazebo versus the plane.”
The board’s decision to get rid of the plane became public when Conklin posted a blog comment on The Photo News’ Web site, after stories appeared in last week’s edition about the installation of the gazebo and the 50th anniversary of the plane in the park.
Conklin later referred comment to Purcell.
“It’s also a large insurance liability to the village,” said Purcell, noting the plane is an eyesore. “Everybody climbs on it and it’s been vandalized. We put up temporary fences to keep people away, but the fences keep getting torn down. It’s basically sitting there until the government takes it back. We will have to get more information from the government of what we can do with it if they don’t take it. We hope to hear from them within 90 days. Our window (of time) is 90 to 120 days.”
The jet came from the former Utica-Rome Air Force Base in upstate Rome in August 1963 as a monument to the men who fought and died in the Korean War. Four Monroe residents, including Sgt. Ford Dally and Mayor Jay Stahl, helped transport the plane with a tractor and trailer donated by local businesses.
Air Force volunteers stationed at Stewart Air Force Base in Newburgh helped to reassemble the jet. They added a children’s slide and placed it in the park as a major part of the playground area.
The slide and the jet’s nose cone are long gone. Graffiti is visible on its rusted fuselage which once gleamed in silver with red accents.
Several attempts have been by volunteers to restore the plane, most recently in 2009 by a group of Marines and members of the Cornerstone Masonic Temple Lodge No. 711 to honor Dally, who was a longtime lodge member.
“There were volunteers from Stewart working on the plane, but then they got shipped out and their work was vandalized,” said Purcell. “Someone would have to start all over. It’s a real safety hazard now.”
It’s not known if those two groups are aware of the village’s decision to get rid of the aircraft.
‘A chronic issue’
But Purcell said the board remains open to the idea of the public undertaking a fund-raising effort to raise at least $50,000 to keep the plane in Monroe.
However, the money would need to raised quickly.
The money would be used for restoration costs and to install a concrete pad as a permanent base for the plane. Money would also be needed for ongoing maintenance and security costs. Purcell said it would then become a monument in the village, not something kids would play on.
“There have been few attempts to raise money that have not come into fruition on a volunteer basis,” he said. “When you added in all the costs of the plane, board made the financial decision to put up the gazebo.”
Separately, Purcell said board has been talking about ways to revitalize the entire park.
The “airplane” portion of the part was named to honor Dally. However, Purcell said, Airplane Park is really a part of the larger Crane Park, which includes the two ponds and surrounding land.
“We have some ideas of what do in the park when the plane is gone, but we have to raise the revenue,” he said. “I don’t want to get into the details right now. That plane has been sitting like that in its deteriorated state for nearly eight years. The public needs to know that. It’s gone through two and a half mayors. It’s been a chronic issue to get it rehabilitated.”
- Nancy Kriz
My hometown has an old jet at the airport. I think it is an F-80 but I think there was a trainer which looked similar so I am not sure.
I think all the city has to do is cut the grass and maybe paint it ever 20 years or so.
“Citing costs and safety”
More like cowering in craven fear from vampire tort lawyers and people looking to “win the liability lottery”.
"The Commemorative Air Force (CAF), formerly known as the Confederate Air Force..."
PC strikes again!
The people of Monroe have not been good stewards of this plane or of the memory of the war dead.
Argh!
What state is this Monroe in.
----------------
"COMMUNity activISTS"
Sounds like NY state from the contexts in the story.
Here in Ft. Lauderdale we have long had a beautiful example of, I think, an F-86, mounted on a pylon in the middle of the drive to a city park and the War Memorial Auditorium.
The fighter was moved from an earlier location on the grounds and repainted from a mostly white to a tactical green camo on top and a lighter sky color on the belly, very cool display!
We have one in a local park that’s filled with concrete...
In a local park, we have one that’s filled with concrete...
I believe it is in New York State.
I saw (I believe) an operational one at EAA Oshkosh this past week. There was so much going on and it was my first time, I lost track of it and saw so much other stuff.
Had a great time.
“What state is this Monroe in.”
The village of Monroe is in upstate New York, about 10 miles west of the Hudson River, some 50-60 miles north of NY City and a little west.
The Stewart AFB referred to is an inactive facility, somewhat north. The US Military Academy at West Point is on the west bank of the Hudson, 15-20 miles southeast of Monroe.
The “Utica-Rome AFB” referred to is another USAF installation, now closed, on the east edge of Rome, NY some 150 miles northwest of Monroe. Don’t know where the author came up with that moniker; while it was open, it was named Griffiss AFB.
The justification of this F-86 as a Korean War relic is tenuous. The L model did not see action over Korea; it postdates that conflict and was deployed in CONUS air defense later in the 1950s.
Museums, especially aviation museums, are on a constant hunt for funding and support. Many would-be donors are hypersensitive to politics and mere public sentiment; hence the meek response when PC pressure groups demanded that CAF change the name it was given at its inception (Confederate Air Force) in Texas to something less “offensive” some 10 years back. “Commemorative Air Force” was the choice.
CAF’s focus is on warbirds of the WWII period, and on flyable airframes. This interceptor would be a bit out of their line.
Such large organizations as the National Museum of the United States Air Force (near Dayton, OH) and the Strategic Air and Space Museum outside Omaha, NE face their own funding shortfalls and must make daily choices about prioritizing salvage and restoration project. Even with significant volunteer workforces, they live on the edge.
In the early 1990s, the USAF Museum (as then named) had to scrap the last surviving B-52 that flew around the world nonstop in 1957, after it had deteriorated beyond reclamation. The SAC Museum (as Strategic Air & Space Museum was then known) came within days of being shut down in the mid-1990s, because its aircraft collection (including one of only four remaining B-36 bombers, and the first B-52 to attain operational status) had deteriorated so much.
There was some type of jet on display at our local City Lake Park for years and years. There was a tall ladder on one side of the cockpit and a big slide on the other side. It was awesome and kids and adults really loved it. Sure, it was a little scary climbing that ladder but the payoff of getting to sit for a few minutes in the cockpit before sliding was really cool. It was removed for ‘safety concerns’ at some point, which was extremely disappointing for many who grew up with that thing. There was also a very old fire engine that kids loved. It was removed in order to ‘salvage parts’ or something. I was never really sure of why they took that one out but those two things were the big draws for kids at the park for years and years. What a shame and I’m sorry my kids didn’t get to see those things.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.