Posted on 08/04/2013 10:43:30 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
What kind of panic are we talking about here? Actual quote from agency insider communications obtained by CNN: You dont jeopardize yourself, you jeopardize your family as well.
The word of the day is unprecedented. Phony scandal no more:
Since January, some CIA operatives involved in the agencys missions in Libya, have been subjected to frequent, even monthly polygraph examinations, according to a source with deep inside knowledge of the agencys workings
It is being described as pure intimidation, with the threat that any unauthorized CIA employee who leaks information could face the end of his or her career
Another [insider] says, You have no idea the amount of pressure being brought to bear on anyone with knowledge of this operation.
Among the many secrets still yet to be told about the Benghazi mission, is just how many Americans were there the night of the attack.
A source now tells CNN that number was 35, with as many as seven wounded, some seriously.
While it is still not known how many of them were CIA, a source tells CNN that 21 Americans were working in the building known as the annex, believed to be run by the agency.
Thirty-five Americans on the ground, 21 at the CIA annex. Maybe the skeletal security crew at the consulate wasnt as skeletal as thought. Is that what happened here not so much a security vacuum as a security presence so secret that it couldnt be revealed publicly, despite the White House being pounded over its failures for months afterwards? None of which is to say that they shouldnt have had more security; the consulate and annex were overrun regardless, no matter how many people were there. But maybe that helps explain why the formal security presence wasnt bigger: There was a lot of CIA in the area and maybe the White House didnt want to attract attention to what they were doing there by inserting a squad of Marines to patrol the grounds. We already had an inkling of that, in fact, per this interesting but vague WSJ story from last November, which argued that the CIAs role in the city appeared to be more important than thought. (The consulate provided diplomatic cover for the classified CIA operations.) CNN itself followed up in May by reporting that the larger mission in Benghazi was covert and alleging that there were more Americans there tied to the CIA 20 of 30 in all than to States diplomatic presence.
But what were they doing there to justify such agency paranoia now about people blabbing? Former CIA analyst Robert Baer tells CNN that agents are typically polygraphed ever few years, not every month. What could be so tippy top secret that it needs to be kept under wraps even if it means threatening agents families to buy their silence? On Twitter, Lachlan Markay points to this Business Insider piece, also from May, speculating that weapons were involved. Which isnt surprising everyone knows the feds are trying to round up loose arms from Qaddafis stockpiles before jihadis get hold of them. Whats surprising is where the weapons might, might have been headed. To a depot back in the U.S.? Maybe not:
Also in October we reported the connection between Ambassador Christopher Stevens, who died in the attack, and a reported September shipment of SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles (i.e. MANPADS) and rocket-propelled grenades from Benghazi to Syria through southern Turkey.
That 400-ton shipment the largest consignment of weapons yet for Syrian rebels was organized by Abdelhakim Belhadj, who was the newly-appointed head of the Tripoli Military Council.
In March 2011 Stevens, the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan rebels, worked directly with Belhadj while he headed the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.
Stevens last meeting on Sept. 11 was with Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin, and a source told Fox News that Stevens was in Benghazi to negotiate a weapons transfer in an effort to get SA-7 missiles out of the hands of Libya-based extremists.
Syrian rebels subsequently began shooting down Syrian helicopters and fighter jets with SA-7s akin to those in Qaddafis looted stock.
This theory seems sound enough to CNN that they actually mention it in todays bombshell, albeit as something thats being kicked around on the Hill. Is that what happened here? The White House decided to secretly start arming the rebels a year ago with the sort of SAMs that everyone fears might eventually be used to shoot down western airliners? Did Congress, or at least the intel committees, know about it? Do note: Even now, after the U.S. announced that it would arm the rebels openly last month, were supposedly withholding SAMs from them because theyre too dangerous. If the secret weapons shipments theory is true, then in fact weve been giving them the dangerous stuff for at least a year. Beyond that, anyone recognize the name Abdelhakim Belhadj? Ive written about him before. Belhadj is no moderate of the sort were allegedly working with within the rebel ranks. Hes a hardcore jihadi who fought with Bin Laden in Afghanistan. If he was the point man on helping to transfer dangerous weapons to the Syrian rebels, theres even less reason to think that they ended up in moderate hands rather than in the hands of the mujahedeen.
One other point. As far as I know, its a lingering mystery as to how the jihadis who attacked the consulate in Benghazi knew where the CIA annex was. The consulates a public presence so its a sitting duck. The annex kept a lower profile, even though it was close by, and yet the attackers zeroed in on it later in the evening of 9/11/12. Why? Could be it was as simple as knowing that there was another building in the neighborhood that had lots of Americans working at it and therefore that building was worth hitting too. Or maybe they just noticed suspicious traffic to the annex on the evening of the attack and decided to take a closer look. But if the secret weapons shipments theory is true, it could also be that bad actors in the city had actually dealt with the CIA there about getting arms to Syria and therefore knew full well where the annex was and who was inside. If thats what happened, its like Afghanistan in microcosm in terms of jihadis ultimately biting the American hand that fed them.
Exit question: What was the CIA doing in Benghazi?
PAULA BROADWELL
"Another thing we're looking into is if the attackers were motiviated by a desire to liberate captives held at the annex..."
How many people think you could have THIS long and large an operation with SO many marginal actors there in Bengazi but have NO need to sometimes hold them...?
No hard proof, but I think the idea that there was no black prison there in Bengazi is very remote.
A real flyer is that over the course of this large-scale op they developed relationships with actors who had run across WMD's smuggled out of pre-invasion Iraq.
That is A GUESS.
I fail to see how bringing in Obama's race adds anything to the discussion. It's one thing to point out the actual prop-agit going on; but biting on their bait is not a winning strategy - imo
Ignore the text...see the video....scroll way down to see it.
It is my way of showing that I reject his race card. It is the only card the fool knows how to play, so openly rejecting that card takes away an trump value he thinks it has. Being black is no disgrace, but claiming ‘blackness’ when he is more Arab than black is something the media has very strenuously avoided in their service to the regime destroying America. I’m not rejecting his race card as a strategy, I’m rejecting it as a way to slap his arrogant face.
Lots of speculation going on...at Infowars.com and Canada Free Press ...not on the past but why Obama and the CIA are doing some unusual things.
Now now Ernie, you are not supposed to link Alex Jones :>
I just love people like you who ignore news. We link ABC, NBC, CBS and not Alex. You are a fool.
I saw the Alex Jones segment up there. WE here at FR had the “heat-seeking missiles” story for....since a couple weeks after Bengazi. For us, it’s a very old story. Also for Drudge and some Brit newspapers.
The only new part is that CNN apparently succeeded in finding the office keys, logging onto their computers and REPORTING that “news”.
IMO there is nothing else new about the story, really.
The new questions are:
1. Did Bengazi have a black prison site
2. Did they at some point run across WMD’s smuggled out of Iraq or develop relationships with people who had them at some point
Being black is no disgrace....
What an odd phrase.
I’d say another interesting question about be:
Valeria Jarrett, who was born in Tehran —what kind of relationship has she maintained with the Iranian gummint..?
Did that relationship play any role in her (probable) Bengazi (de-facto) rescue stand-down order...?
In short:
Was the Bengazi attack funded by *Iran* and was the rescue red-lighted by *Valerie Jarrett*..?
Is this because they expect Al Qeada to start using all the newly acquired toys in a massive attack ? Or is this because they simply want to cover up their involvement in helping Al Qeada acquire this munitions. Or could it be both ?
Or perhaps there is yet another possibility. The CNN story about the illegal arms transfers was broke because they expect Al Qeada to now start using them ?
“The house leadership does not have enough guts to do their job. That is why the Benghazi scandal is not going anywhere fast.”
No question they are terrified. Not sure we know why.
Now you accuse me of linking Alex when I did not ? Talk about desperation.
We keep hearing about frequent polygraph tests, threats to them and their families, and new names and “witness relocation.” Maybe they have all “gone missing”?
That one is about off the charts...but who knows.
I thought I had more time....got to rush out of here....back later.
Alex has been proven correct about so many things that ABC, NBC, and CBS lie about all the time. It is time for Freepers to open their eyes.
Thanks so much.
“We” knew this.
Oh. You were being sarcastic. Did you notice my little smiley face ? You need to trend carefully around Alex here. Was just playfully slapping Ernie because I was surprised to see him of all people post that link. These are interesting times however.
I don’t trust CNN. They are making the story for a reason. Yes, it’s important, but it must be a deflection from something more insidious.
If this is the bone they are throwing at us, then it is somehow letting Obama off the hook for something else.
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