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To: Respond Code Three
Will you post the appropriate court ruling? A couple hundred thousand police officers and lawsuit happy lawyers would like to know about it.

I can provide a long list of court decisions that have violated the Constitution, so I don't much care about precedent when it comes to my natural rights.

I can see the purpose in arresting someone on the suspicion that they have committed a crime, and then waiting a short time for formal charges to be filed. That is Constitutional.

Forcibly restraining someone is an arrest. There is no reason to create a new status of pre-arrest detention, unless it is to allow an arrest without even the hint of a crime having been committed.

Yes, I've got big issues with a cop that wants to cuff me, so that they can go think about what theyight be able to arrest me for. Perhaps the new norm will be to cuff everone in a traffic stop, until the cars black box is reviewed for possible violations.

If you were/are a cop, you should be more concerned than me about this, because when everyone starts thinking of cops as the enemy, they really will have a dangerous job.

I was raised to think highly of the police. I've never been arrested. Over the last 25 years most every encounter I've had with the police, from reporting crimes to being cut off in traffic has demonstrated a hostile or demeaning attitude toward me and others. I even got a lecture once, while in Naval Officer uniform, about "just being a civilian (unlike the cop)". What am I supposed to think?

63 posted on 08/03/2013 10:44:01 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

To be fair, I have to report that God has been watching out for me so far (as God has watched out for hobos and drunks so maybe I’m not too bad to be watched out for too). But again I am giving God credit for being an omnipotent Father. I got stopped by a traffic cop who said a tail light was out. I asked which one and he told me. Wanted to see drivers license but did not care about my insurance or ask for it, he did not even write a warning but just told me to fix the light and sent me on my way.


69 posted on 08/03/2013 10:51:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: SampleMan
" I even got a lecture once, while in Naval Officer uniform, about "just being a civilian (unlike the cop)". What am I supposed to think? "

Situations vary. Cops aren't all the same. I treated all people in uniform with the respect and deference they deserved. I once transported a hitchhiking Canadian soldier about 20 miles to the county line without telling my dispatch. Had I encountered you in your Naval uniform I wouldn't have been the least disrespectful. Most likely I would have been interested in where you were serving and what your assignment was.

71 posted on 08/03/2013 10:54:17 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: SampleMan
I even got a lecture once, while in Naval Officer uniform, about "just being a civilian (unlike the cop)". What am I supposed to think?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?, I believe is appropriate.

88 posted on 08/03/2013 2:06:53 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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