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Army officer gets 20 years' jail for murder after he ordered troops to open fire on Afghan men....
Daily Mail UK ^ | August 01, 2013 | By David Mccormack and Helen Pow

Posted on 08/02/2013 5:52:40 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

FULL TITLE: "Army officer gets 20 years' jail for murder after he ordered troops to open fire on Afghan men approaching their checkpoint - but his lawyers say he was protecting platoon"

An Oklahoma Army lieutenant has been found guilty of two counts of murder in connection with a series of shootings in Afghanistan.

A jury at Fort Bragg delivered the verdict against Clint Lorance, an 82nd Airborne Division lieutenant, on Thursday evening and he was sentenced to 20 years in prison, forfeiture of all pay and dismissal from the U.S. Army. Lorance, 28, was found not guilty of making a false official statement.

Prosecutors said Lorance recklessly ordered his men to open fire immediately, after three men on a motorcycle approached his patrol in southern Afghanistan in July 2012. They said this was in violation of the military's rules of engagement, which requires soldiers to hold fire unless they have evidence of hostile action or hostile intent.

Two of the men were killed and the third ran away.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; antiwardotcom; army; clintlorance; fubo; lorance; proputinjackasses; randsconcerntrolls; roe; russia
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Perhaps if he changed his name to Nidal Hasan (Ft. Hood mass murderer who STILL receives his pay) he could get his pay reinstated?
1 posted on 08/02/2013 5:52:40 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Why are we there? Why were we ever there?


2 posted on 08/02/2013 5:54:20 PM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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To: gotribe

Fort Hood?


3 posted on 08/02/2013 5:59:48 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I think they could have a “Stand Your Ground” defense in Afghanistan. How many of our troops have been killed by terrorists wearing Afghan military uniforms?


4 posted on 08/02/2013 6:00:17 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: gotribe

Excellent question.


5 posted on 08/02/2013 6:00:22 PM PDT by doc1019 (Get our troops the hell out of the ME)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I have not made a great study of this case. However, it seems like the 1LT got 20 years for issuing an order and standing his ground in a combat environment. At the same time Obama dodged any responsibility to give orders during the Benghazi incident by hiding and probably getting drunk in his quarters.


6 posted on 08/02/2013 6:03:39 PM PDT by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

20 years.

7 posted on 08/02/2013 6:04:30 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: doc1019
Here, there or ANYwhere, no officer will take a chance on losing it all because of what might happen if he orders to fire.

Would to GOD some warrior patriot would come home with pissed off memories of the goo that was his buddies head (G C Scott / Patton), and get close enough ...

8 posted on 08/02/2013 6:05:20 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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For sure...
This isn’t a ‘joking’ matter but how did they let one get away?

A friend of mine who was an Army LT in WWII was Jewish and he had been ‘accepted’ like any other ‘Butter Bar’ - a lot of apprehension etc...the men took to him though and when the ‘Boss’ went down he was thrust in the position. At one point they were pretty much ‘cut off’ and had captured a German soldier. One of the squad spoke a little German and the LT’s plan was turn him over to HQ when the chance presented itself.
They fed the POW and were going to put him under guard when a SGT Kelly came forward and finally went to the LT and sneeringly said “What should I do with him?” and was told to ‘Take care of him, we are pulling out in an hour’.
They walked off and they heard some gunfire and Kelly came back and said “Sir, I took care of him”. Oh well, nobody is perfect - and no, my friend wasn’t ‘proud’ of how that turned out but he also didn’t get suicidal.

NSA etal both parties are long gone......


9 posted on 08/02/2013 6:09:41 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Inside every 'older' man there is a 'younger' man wondering "WTF happened")
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And the ‘unintended effect’ of this trial is that all officers and NCO’s are now going to call JAG on whether or not they can defend their positions.


10 posted on 08/02/2013 6:22:13 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: gotribe

Bush’ fault?

Perhaps we want to save muslims from themselves when we do nothing to save this nation from them?

Islam is a ROP, yeah!


11 posted on 08/02/2013 6:24:07 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

When does the mutiny start?


12 posted on 08/02/2013 6:29:26 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

(Just pre-zotted. So angry I can’t see.)


13 posted on 08/02/2013 6:31:41 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: gaijin

get your kids out of the military...I don’t care if their fat pension is 2 yrs away...get them out and away from these communists....


14 posted on 08/02/2013 6:31:41 PM PDT by cherry
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America.
ordered his men to open fire on three men on a motorcycle approaching his patrol in July 2012, killing two
He should be given a full pardon.


15 posted on 08/02/2013 6:34:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: gaijin
If I had a son....

He IS our son! These are our children. :(

16 posted on 08/02/2013 6:41:09 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: PistolPaknMama

Stay TF out of todays military.

I appreciate the efforts of those men serving our country. I served myself, but I had a President in my time, and the military had real Commanders.


17 posted on 08/02/2013 6:45:19 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Mastador1

Are you kidding? FYI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting


18 posted on 08/02/2013 6:50:26 PM PDT by Bronzy
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And you can put squarely on the backs of the bastards who voted for Obama.Also every individual who gave sacrificed their life for the United States of America from the Revolutionary War to the present is owed an apology because of the acts of these sonsof bitches.


19 posted on 08/02/2013 6:53:24 PM PDT by sport
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To: gotribe

How are your questions, pertinent to a military political adjudication?


20 posted on 08/02/2013 7:06:13 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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